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The return of the Hungarian: FREE ENERGY from Wave-Fields...

Started by tao, August 17, 2007, 03:29:35 PM

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ZL

#27
February 26, 2016, 12:50:07 PM
Kator01,

Thanks for your input.
I hope though, that the www.Distinti.com and the video you linked are not yours  ;)

In the comment section of the video www.Distinti.com makes the following false statement:

Quote"In the case of two dipoles, using proper techniques, at any given radius there will be points where the power is 2 times the power of the isotropic (of the pair).  And because other points have less; the total integrated power will come out properly to be that of two antennas. "

This has been discussed on pages 5 and 6 of the latest version 1.2 of Janos Vajda's paper. You can download it from my website linked in my last post. On page 40 you will find the COP results of two Hertz dipoles radiating identical frequencies. This formula is the result of an integration performed over a closed surface around the antennas in far field. From the diagram you can see that the power is conserved (Ps/Pin=1) only in special cases. But in general, the total input power is not identical with the output power in far field. It can be greater or smaller than the resultant output power, depending on phase relationship, and on the distance between the antennas.

Further nonsensical statements of www.Distinti.com in comments section of the video:

Quote"The ultimate point of this video is to show that there is no electric field in a radio wave (there is actually another Antenna Paradox video coming soon which delves further into this point)...

"power does not add linearly; however, we cant add voltages in parallel because voltages in parallel do not add; thus the "so called" E-Field of an electromagnetic wave is incorrect, electromagnetic energy is a kinetic transmission of energy which is more akin to current.......

"I am merely using it to explain that the parallel incident waves can not be have electric fields. "

I hope there is no need to press the issue, that the electromagnetic wave has got an electric field component... ;D
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I have taken a quick look at Raymond Phillips' patent US4685047, but did not read it to the end yet. Based on the excerpt and the schematic diagram I don't see anything revolutionary in it at all, in fact I can hardly imagine any use for this thing. The power you could get this way is minuscule, except perhaps near very powerful radio or TV stations, which is basically useless to humanity at large.

ZL

#28
February 26, 2016, 01:04:29 PM
Forgot to mention that on my new website there is an improved English translation of Janos Vajda's paper, it is version 1.2 published on 14. 02. 2016. Therefore, even if you readers have got the older version in your archives, it is worth downloading the latest version as well (before it disappears  ;) ). It can be downloaded from:

https://feprinciples.wordpress.com/free-energy-from-wave-fields/

Since the paper is a free document and it generates no income, I could not hire a professional editor to proofread it. If there is a volunteer who's mother tongue is English, and is able to find out the proper technical terms used in microwave technology and mathematics, who is willing to read the text, find grammatical or linguistic errors and suggest corrections, that would be great. Only the English text needs to be verified, the formulas have been checked by Janos.

Kator01

#29
February 27, 2016, 01:43:49 PM
Hello ZL,

thank you for your comments. No, destinti is not my channel. Actually I did not read his comments so I missed these wrong statements. Also I missed the distinction between near- and far-field which would make this statement about the "non existence of electric field component " obsolete.

When I learned of your webssite I remembered that I read about Vajdas long time ago. Meanwhile I had bought a new computer more that 8 years ago and lost a lot of archived data as I usually archive extraordinalry things before they vanish.

So here it is again thanks to your effort and I will send this to a few friends of mine who are electronic professionals both of which are ham-radio professional, as I have no means at this time to experiment in this field.

Thank you for all of your effort. This time I will create a double-archive

Quotehope there is no need to press the issue, that the electromagnetic wave has got an electric field component... ;D
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definitely not !

Regards

Kator01



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