Stanley Meyer replication with low input power

[saintpoida]

how much gas HHO needs to be created to run a car engine?

i mean what volume in cc/s or cc/min needs to be generated to run
say a 2.5L engine?

[Gheller J]

Runningbare>>>

Looks like you have quite a gap between the pipes

>>Could be over 2mm or 4mm aswell >>this could reduce the efficiency bhiiig tiiiime ! >>>>> check stans canadian patent Ravi mentioned for eff calcs before you proceed

What r d pipe sizes (Outer DIAMETER of outer and inner pipe) n the thickness of outer pipe

the spacer placement's made one of the inner tubes get close to one side of the outer tube...check.



Gh. J.

[Gheller J]

Siantpoida>>>

HHO    &     H2 n O2 cannot b compared     >>>> reason >>>>>

This cud be of interest 2 u:







HOH in combustions:

So let's say now that we are working with the correct gas HOH, how much of this gas is required to see efficiency gains when combusted. The answer to this question is, it depends. It depends on the fuel system being used, it depends on the total volume of fuel being used, i.e. 2 litre engine verses a 6 litre engine, it depends on the condition of the motor, it depends on the driving conditions and it depends on how the existing fuel system is managed, ie. Carbureted verses Electronic Fuel Injection and so on.

Let's continue by having a look at some of the unique properties of HOH and why it is so good at what it does and then we'll explore how to achieve significant efficiency gains.

HOH, the perfect gas, as nature intended!

It is made in perfect stoichiometric ratio two hydrogen atoms to one oxygen atom.
It has a flame speed of 8160 ft/per second Mach 7.5 (H2 is only 680 ft/per second).
It will combust with an air fuel ratio of up to 95:1 (95 parts air to 1 part hydrogen).
It has catalytic characteristics, adjusting its flame temperature based on the substance contact.
HOH when combusted recombines into a tiny water molecule, creating no pollution.
When combusted in the absence of any other gases, it creates a perfect vacuum.
Engines run quieter, smoother and cooler with a HOH supplement.
Things you need to know when using this gas in a Internal Combustion Engine.

Due to the flame speed of HOH and the chain reaction that occurs with the hydrocarbons (existing fuel system) you may need to retard your timing, causing the ignition to occur later in the piston stroke, the amount of this timing change is determined by the total gas volume and is arrived at empirically when or if additional tuning is required. In computer managed vehicles this may happen automatically.

Our tests have shown a slight increase (5%) in brake horse power in the upper rev range.

O2 sensors in EFI engines in some instances detect this reduction in air fuel ratios and increase fuel input, therefore negating any gains. Some vehicle computer systems will recalibrate and make the necessary adjustments overtime, others may need small electronic device installed to overcome this.
In relation to how much gas do I need? We have established a benchmark of 1 litre of (HOH) gas per minute at an energy footprint of between 170-200 Watts for our commercially available cells. Higher efficiency results have been achieved during lab testing, though developing a robust and suitable cell for commercial release has required some compromises.

Depending on your engine size and the outlined adjustments required, your mileage (combustion efficiency), will improve on 1 litre of HOH gas per minute, to what exact extent in your circumstances can not be fully elucidated.

What is known is the smallest amount makes a difference be it a small one, there are consistent anomalies where small amounts have made big differences, but there are also some consistent baselines.




Gh. J.

[saintpoida]

so what gas exactly is generated directly from tap water? HHO?

So 1L of that a minute will give better milage but not enough to run
the vehicle?

So does anyone know how much HHO is required? Or would it be better
to try and extract just the hydrogen from the system and put that in?

Im just trying to work out what would be enough to try and run an engine
lets say for example an EFI 2L engine...

[albert]

Hello out there,
I have been following this for some time - I come from the Bedini side- built a Bedini motor some time ago. Here are some of my thoughts.
I think the solution to all this might be to find the common points between the Bedini process and the WFC circuit. The water cell is just the dipole for capturing the radiant energy. As such it is not so much a capacitor but a resistor. The real magic seems to be in the circuit.This has to have its output impedance matched to the load for a maximum transfer of energy into the water cell. I have asked Patrick Kelly to do one of his excellent tutorials on impedance matching. Hope he will find the time for it.The same basic problems seem to crop up in all these OU devices.
From reading the Meyer patents he seems to have used laser light to pump more energy into the water. Perhaps this could also be done by using a "pond fogger"- a simple membrane driven with ultrasonic frequencies. adding this at the bottom of the cell  might improve the results dramatically.
Also the gas bubbles might be shaken off the tubes for better performance.
this water cell process is anything but simple and has nothing whatsoever to do with classical electrolysis. This is why outside the box thinking is really necessary.
I will try to replicate the circuit and keep you posted. Keep up the good work and dont get discouraged. If this can be made to work it would be a revolution that cannot be stopped anymore.

Albert