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Overunity Machines Forum



Stanley Meyer replication with low input power

Started by hartiberlin, August 18, 2007, 04:39:57 PM

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fever16

@LtBolo
i like that.you have some very interesting points.
looking forward for more updates from you.and pls don't take me wrong,start a new thread with your results and work.this thread is already quite lengthy,following it will get the hell out of newbies.

nothing personal.but i always had little Unbelief in ravi's results.
bcz there are no oscilloscope measurements.and stressed more on conditioning(which proved wrong in my trials).may be iam missing something.but as ppl trying to replicate his work,he shld provide more data like jnaudin did.


LtBolo

How long did you condition? If the conditioning is really a slow motion electroplating, the results could be all over the map....might take 1 month, or 6. Differences in water quality, small variations in trace minerals, etc, etc, could make a world of difference in the result.

You mentioned that you thought the gunk was from the river water...I really don't think so. With pure water the basic DC resistance will be far, far higher, which will result in far less current, far less gas, and far less gunk. The river water has many impurities that lower the DC resistance, increasing current, gas, and gunk. If you want to see the pure water act more like the river water, add a very small pinch of salt to the pure water...trust me...it'll gunk.

In truth, his results sound pretty much like what I would expect if he had plated something to the cathode that needed to be there. In my theory, nickel is the key, and as a good layer of nickel plates out, slowly the critical reaction starts to take place. Once there, it would work pretty uniformly all the time. He mentioned that after a few days of not running it took a few minutes to get back up to production. That agrees with the cold fusion type experiments where they generally run at flat DC for a while to load the cathode with hydrogen, before starting the pulsing. The cell would lose the hydrogen load in the cathode over time and would require some time to recover.

Ravi has shown some of the best results I've seen that still look believable. That said, I still have doubts about whether the input power was only 6 watts...not because I doubt him personally...but mostly due to his use of a clamp-on current meter, and the lack of scope shots...just concerned about measurment error. If he had employed an in-circuit current measurement at the wall, or scope shots across the cell as I described...I'd go from impressed to astounded. We can only hope that eventually he can come forward with better instrumentation.

In the mean time, I'll run with my theory, and when I have something noteable to report, I'll start a thread to do so.

ashtweth_nihilisti

To be Fair on Ravi, he did get a visit from some cowards, so he couldn't exactly show you more straight away, he has given us every thing we need don't forget ;)

All newbee q's are answered now in the panacea university doc, so we can go onto doing R and D  ;D
Ash
?If you create your own electricity, heating and water systems, you create your own politics. Maybe that?s what they?re afraid of.? ?? Michael Reynolds
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org
http://www.panaceauniversity.org

http://www.geocities.com/glorybangla/cqtes.htm

ashtweth_nihilisti

Some one can analyze the tap water in India also if you want to go down this line. I have a few friends there. It obviously calcium IMO.

Also, what about a use for those pancake coils?
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pancake+coil&search_type=&aq=f
?If you create your own electricity, heating and water systems, you create your own politics. Maybe that?s what they?re afraid of.? ?? Michael Reynolds
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org
http://www.panaceauniversity.org

http://www.geocities.com/glorybangla/cqtes.htm

HeairBear

LOL! I love the forums! I too question the coating thing, but, I have my own ideas like most of us. As I have stated before, I have replicated the Lawton/Ravi style design and found pretty much what Ravi has shown. It is in my opinion, at this time, with due respect, that this design is not the actual workings of the original Stan Meyer devices. I am open to any person's ideas as long as I can comprehend them. I don't have to agree with them, but, I can learn something from everyone... Even if I learn a person has nothing to teach me, I have still learned something.

Real life is truly stranger than fiction! LOL! Have a good evening!
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