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Stanley Meyer replication with low input power

Started by hartiberlin, August 18, 2007, 04:39:57 PM

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Guys, I may be a complete newby ;) but just wanted to share something that I thought could help you out with circuits.... who knows maybe this is something useful... please see the description and schematics here

http://www.wasserauto.de/html/spirit_of_maat.html



insane4evr

Quote from: forest on September 08, 2008, 03:04:34 AM
I don't understand. Is that a waveform on output AFTER transformer of just an output from Lawton ?
Hi forest,

Youtube video is just to illustrate that a transformer designed for the operating frequency and voltage of application will have its output waveform follow the input waveform.

I used the lawton mosfet to drive the primary of said transformer just for convenience since with its on/off capability, it can generate rectangular waves of adjustable frequency (square wave is just a special kind of rectangular wave). It shows that the output waveform follows the input waveform with some degree of fidelity.

Consider sound distribution systems with the main amplifier output of 70 volts which has to be stepped down by a transformer at each speaker to match its 16 or 8 or 3.2 ohms impedance. If the transformer distorts the incoming waveform, imagine what the sound will be like. This is why I am confused by the waveform (sketch? or actual capture?) presented by J. Perhaps the input voltage frequency is outside the design range of his transformer.

Attached is schematic of my setup.

forest

Well,that's interesting.It's a pity I cannot check it myself.I'm wondering why some tranformers produce just spikes and some replicate input wave at output.
The point is IMHO  - square wave is a hoax, never worked in Meyer setup.Just my personal opinion..
We are looking for sinewave fully rectified, would be wonderful if somebody could confirm that fully rectified  sinewave put on input of transformer produce the same (but higher or lower voltage) at the output of transformer. I think this is crucial to know!

Visual Echo

Transformers use magnetism to convert voltage.  The magnetism only occurs when the voltage is changing, the same reason that power lines use AC and not DC.  The graph/drawing posted by Jamie on 8/26 looks upside down, like the scope probes were put on the secondary backwards, but the spikes only occur on the rising and falling edges of the pulse.  There are spikes when the square wave voltage into the transformer primary is in transition, but when the voltage is a steady DC (high or low), the secondary voltage drops to zero again.  That's normal.  It doesn't matter how much DC there is into the primary, if it's not changing, it won't induce magnetism (that's why it's called inductance) and the secondary voltage will fall to zero.  This depends on the quality of the transformer's magnetic core, the frequency, and other components.

The graph/drawing Jamie posted on 9/7 makes no sense to me, maybe there's a diode in there which is snuffing one side of the pulses.

I'm surprised there's no 'bounce' on either of those graphs.  It suggests that either the pulses are fairly slow, or that the saturation level of the transformer is fairly low.  Or high.  I'm not sure.

Hope this helps.
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Visual Echo

This is a shot of a Tektronix 475 analog oscilloscope at 50 volts/division vertical DC coupling, 0.1millisecond/division horizontal, ground is third division up from the bottom.  The waveform is complex... I start with a Lawton circuit with an IRF540 MOSFET driven by a LM556 dual timer.  I measured 213 Hz gate + 2792 Hz hum with my ho-made frequency counter.  It goes through a Triad VPS10-8000 power transformer, it has dual windings on both primary and secondary, so primary is 115/230 volts, secondary is 5/10 volts at 80 watts.  Both sides are hooked up in series, so it would normally take 230 volts and output 10 volts at 8 amps.  Putting a ~14 volt square wave from the Lawton circuit into the 10 volt side, the output is over 250 volts.  You can't see the gating square wave at the speed in this shot, just the ~2800 Hz hum frequency.  This is done with no load at all, even a small load of a 10K ohm resistor on the high voltage output is enough to get rid of the bounce on the leading and falling edges.
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