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Stanley Meyer replication with low input power

Started by hartiberlin, August 18, 2007, 04:39:57 PM

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xbox hacker

Hey everybody, I have a interesting development. With out the cell connected i connect a transformer between the PWM and the bifilar coil, i can get over 300vdc out of it. As soon as i connect the cell it drops to around 2vdc. And the "water capacitor" cell does not seem to "step charge" it stays around 2vdc. Now with out the transformer i can get around 2vdc right from the PWM.

Why does it seem that the cell is killing my power and not step charging past the 2vdc point. I have done some calculations on my cell and its 398pF per tube (3 tubes, assuming 80 as the dielectric for the water) with it in tap water the Ohm is 3.34M ohm.

Any thoughts  ???

Jamie

@ Visual Echo
I'm sorry the drawing was upside down. Yes there is a little bounce also. I'll post a REAL shot so you guys can see exactly what I'm seeing, tomorrow. I agree with you Visual Echo, I don't see how that youtube vid is correct (I'm sure i'm misunderstanding). Change in current produces change in magnetic flux, change in flux induces EMF (voltage.) That's why a sinewave has a sinewave as output 90* out of phase. When you stop the current quickly, the magnetic field collaspes quickly and induces a huge voltage.  http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_1/chpt_15/2.html is a good place to learn about this.
Oh ya, just so you guys know, I'm useing the 200 turns to 600 turns transformer from Ravi's doc.
Insane_forever can you explain how you can get a square wave out of a transformer with squarewave as input.
I'll stop drawing lol  ::)

xbox hacker

@Jamie:
What size toroidal did ya use? Wannna make me one...lol  ::)

bxngoc

Found this link http://www.aardvark.co.nz/stanley_meyer.shtml may upset some people. But it says "water molecules have a resonant frequency of around 22GHz, and only when in vapor form"
Can anybody confirm?

HeairBear

OK, Stan was a fraud in the eyes of a botched court case and yet was offered at least a billion in cash to buy his work. If it didn't work, why did they make such a big offer? Why was he ordered by the US to not publicly release some information? Stan wasn't the only one to use water as a fuel source either. Puharich, Dingel, Keely, and so on. The writer of that article calls him a bullshitter but really didn't say he understood how it worked if it did. He did tell you how it didn't though. Why does everyone think you need to have a degree of some sort to create things? A PHD to me means your more than likely to be trained in the box. Anybody who claims to know better than others because he has an education is obviously uneducated. It is always possible to do anything you want, just not probable. If you are certain Stan's work is bullshit, then why even bother to talk about it? Is he trying to save people from wasting time and money on something he has never tried to do himself? I'm sure if you asked the author of the article a technical question about the VIC circuit, you would more than likely get an answer quoted from wikipedia.

If your going to use a step-up transformer, it's going to be a bit difficult to work even with normal electrolysis as a closed loop circuit as drawn by Stan. The frequency will change as soon as the cell is run and continue to change as the water level goes down. A normal closed loop circuit will have too many losses after the circuit's target frequency changes. The impedance will change making the transformer useless out side of the target frequency.

How does a person go about getting rid of the voltage drop caused by the cell?
When I hear of Shoedinger's Cat, I reach for my gun. - Stephen Hawking