Stanley Meyer replication with low input power

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You didn't answer my question.

When the single electron on the Hydrogen atom is already in the lowest band how can it oh well who cares anyway.

When Stan's cell breaks down at the end of the pulse train this is similar to when a gas gets ionized and becomes conductive.
This has got nothing to do with the cell's capacity dumping back it's energy into the source circuit.
The thing is that you know this when you have build this because then you know the gas comes out at these silent intervals between the pulse trains due to the water breaking down.

So you have either your own view on the mechanism but have not tried it yourself, or you do not completly understand what it is about.
But there is no need to discuss this any further since Stan left us with a great deal of information for those who want to take a stab at it.
Like i did and i hope more will follow since this is about the best documented invention available for researchers who want to work in the Hydrogen field.

I have switched to electric driving so i'm now loking into effecient way's to generate electricity otherwise i would still be on the Hydrogen wagon.
The biggest issue was the water condensing in the engine creating rust iside the cilinders which is why it has to rune about every day or the engine and it's pistons will get stuck due to this oxidation.
And i got tired spraying oil into the ciliders turning the crank by hand to protect the metal inside.

I will stand out of the way for anyone who is replicating stan's device.  What I don't care to do is see people wasting time and rescources on such things as expecting current induced fracturing of water to somehow allow an engine to run on water.  The only energy supplied to the cell is the pulse train charging of the cell.  This creates an electric FIELD between the capactior metals.  The input energy is therefore conserved in some degree in the charging of this capacitor.
There is no need for current to short the cell in order for the fracturing process to occur.  The effects of the variable intensity of the accelerating electric field between the plates (tubes) is what fractures the water without electron infusion into the water.  A charged particle accelerated through an electrolyte carrries with it an electric field.  This electric field disrupts the water bound electrons and produces water fracturing, in a classical electrolysis process.  This is a very inefficient way to induce varying electric fields into anything.  You will also notice that the circuit employed is a tunable series resonant one.  Transformer secondary with an inductor and 1/2 a capacitor in each leg.  I've seen this circuit many times utilized by Tesla to power his primaries and his patents on improved method of electrical energy transfer.  Unfortunately Tesla had to rely on spark gaps acting as zener diodes to introduce the input power needed to maintain his primaries in resonance.  In fact Myer's whole setup is a modern version of Tesla's ozone generator.  Again in an ozone generator there is no current between cell walls.  There is capacitave demands to charge and recharge the plates and resistive losses in the circuit.  These demands are minimized by driving the circuit at resonance.  The voltage appearing across the cell is purely reactive.  In a closed circuit analysis it is wattless.  The voltage is totally out of phase with the current.  This is a good thing otherwise all of the input energy would be dissipated in the resistance of the circuit where voltage and current occur in phase.  The dielectric constant of the capacitor will vary.  Myer stated that his engine didnt need distilled water to run on.  He developed feedback loops that sensed the capacitance and varied the inductance so as to maintain the circuit in resonance.  (normal circuitry employed in all tuners and transmitters to avoid drift due to variance in circuit components including antennae and near field capacitance-component heating-parasitic capacitance-etc.)
    Unfortunately the hydrino theory relies on a complete remodeling of the atom.  This work has been performed,  I don't have the rescources to proove that such an atom exists.  This work has also been done and ongoing.  There is spectral line "widening"  upon examination of the atoms suspected to be hydrinos.  This suggests a large number of subshells below the s.  The bohr model is only a model.  Normalization of the equations used to create this model defines an area of interest and does not hinder nature in it's activity.  The s orbital could be supported by thermal photon exchange between an electron oscillating between a suborbital and the s.  The spectral line "widening" points towards the thermal  photon having it's energies in the soft ultraviolet range.  Proponents of the theory are also pointing to black matter existing in this form.  I can somehow understand that an inflating/cooling universe is quite capable of forming these hydrinos better than I can understand the Bohr model excluding them.

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Myers clearly explains that his resonance was setup using the capacitance of the cell and tunable inductors to maintain an electric field stimulation of the water.  Dielectric breakdown was avoided. 

Dielectric breakdown is not avoided, it's encouraged at a certain point in time in order to temporarily turn water into a conductor!

Please watch the lost tapes interview, he says "when I say resonance, I mean the dielectric breakdown of water". Stan himself says he was indeed tuning in to the dielectric properties of water! He says it himself, it's straight from the horses mouth.

The word "resonance" is a buzzword and should have been avoided.

What are the diodes doing in the circuit, by the way? It's not a typical resonant circuit - diodes block flow.. and block so called resonance, depending on what you mean by resonance. Really, we should just stop using the word "resonance" it's bothering me quite a bit. It reminds me of gobblydegook and doublespeak, which the book and movie 1984 warned us about.

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  The dielectric constant of the capacitor will vary.  Myer stated that his engine didnt need distilled water to run on.  He developed feedback loops that sensed the capacitance and varied the inductance so as to maintain the circuit in resonance.

He developed circuits to tune into the dielectric value and strength of the water in the capacitor.  Tap water with more impurities in it, will conduct quicker than distilled water. The reason Stan never got his devices released into the industry and public markets, is because he was too busy debugging and perfecting his system which was very difficult to debug and automate. He had the process down manually by using his  hands to tune into the dielectric properties of water, but you can't be sitting there tuning things with your hands while driving the car.

Stan spent way too much time trying to automate this process with circuits... It would have  helped if he had a Million dollar BMW or Volkswagon car company helping him. One person doing it himself, with his Twin brother here and there, is not enough to get this product into the market.  Plus, scientists do not like Stan meyer, because he used the term Over Unity, which is a big no-no word. Never, ever use the word  over unity. Always explain that your device takes energy from Kinetic molecular movement or from the Sun. DO NOT claim over unity, ever.

Your stuff will NEVER be taught in university or high school if you claim over unity. Again, my Youtube channel has information on this about putting yourself into the teacher's shoes. IF you were a teacher,  you can be ridiculed and fired for saying "over unity". That's a swear word. It's a bad word. Don't use it. I realize this web forum is called "over unity" and I apologize to the owner of this site. I'm arguing from a practical pragmatic perspective, I'm not trying to insult.

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I have switched to electric driving so i'm now loking into effecient way's to generate electricity otherwise i would still be on the Hydrogen wagon.

You should be able to use hydrogen to run a gasoline generator... and if the gasoline generator rusts up, then we need to find All Aluminum ones maybe?  Also check out Stan's "EPG" system which apparently generated electricity.

If someone could just prove Stan's Steam Resonator used less power than an electric stove, then he would prove he was tapping into another energy source such as molecule spin. All someone has to do is prove the steam resonator works... and heats faster than a walmart kettle. It's a simple test, just use a stop watch and heat up one glass of water in a walmart kettle, and compare it to Stan's steam resonator. All these people on youtube are diddling around with smoke and mirrors (bubbles) and none of them do any valid scientific testing to prove the devices produce energy.  Way too many "tinkerers" and not enough people who have a serious understanding of how science works. Science requires measurements. No one is doing any measurements.  Watts is volts and current, not just current alone. Someone do some measurements! Will I be the only one who does them? I don't know.

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  I think this whole overunity thing will boil down to the ability of the electric field set up inside a capacitor to do work.  To accelerate mass. The field does the work.  You discharge the capacitor to regain your input energy into the same circuit as the field accelerated mass now your running with gain.  The electric field associated with an electromagnetic wave does the work on the atom to excite the electrons or ionize the atom in some cases.  The magnetic field is the result of virtual particles that create charge.  You move the charge and the virtual particles move along with it.  These virtual particles are everywhere flowing in and out of anything that is charged.  It is only when a spot in the universe changes in charge state do we see magnetic force lines appear.  These virtual particles are responsible for such things as conveying the energy of a transformer primary to a secondary.  They are the force carriers.  When charged particles are fixed  (or the lack of them)  the virtual particles flow in a uniform stream.  The magnetic flow is now smooth and fast running the shortest distance between charge differentiation.    Then you discharge your capacitor before the accelerated mass hits the wall.  The virtual particle stream collides with the new one caused by the capacitor discharge.  It is sent into disarray and your accelerated mass movement along with it.  Slowing down or accelerating charged mass will emit or absorb energy.  Inertia is always conserved.  The photon or electromagnetic wave is inertia in transit.