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Stanley Meyer replication with low input power

Started by hartiberlin, August 18, 2007, 04:39:57 PM

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dutchy1966

Quote from: RunningBare on September 08, 2007, 07:59:09 PM
Hey guys, regarding the bifilar wound inductor coil, I did a little research into Tesla's bifilar wound coil...

Now it seemed to me that Tesla's method of the coil connection would work better, so I constructed a bifilar on the ferrite rod as per instructions, only this time I tied one output to the input of the other like so...

The reason being is that apparantly the magnetic field is stronger, so in theory the collapsing magnetic field would create a greater voltage spike, I tried my construction and there is a noticeable increase in reaction for the same voltage/current used, do not take my word for it, give it a try, I've only constructed one bifilar so far, the other tube lead has the single winding coil on it, the bifilar is constructed with 100 turns.

Hi Runningbare,

Yes that coil arrangement definately seems like a good idea and I was thinking of using it too. If these tesla style coils are attached on both sides of the tubes it must indeed make quite a difference. What i was wondering though, in the latest D14 file they are wound on ONE ferrite core (so the magnetic fields cancel i guess??)  Maybe we can take it even a step further and have two tesla style coils on the same core and therfore increase the effect further.

I'm still well behind to you but will start replicating this week. I have located most of the parts and going to order them.

Keep us informed and good luck !!

regards

Robert

RunningBare

Quote from: dutchy1966 on September 09, 2007, 09:14:50 AM


Hi Runningbare,

Yes that coil arrangement definately seems like a good idea and I was thinking of using it too. If these tesla style coils are attached on both sides of the tubes it must indeed make quite a difference. What i was wondering though, in the latest D14 file they are wound on ONE ferrite core (so the magnetic fields cancel i guess??)  Maybe we can take it even a step further and have two tesla style coils on the same core and therfore increase the effect further.

I'm still well behind to you but will start replicating this week. I have located most of the parts and going to order them.

Keep us informed and good luck !!

regards

Robert

Hi dutchy, my theory is based on the idea that we need that back spike to overcome the oxide layers on the tubes, I'm still researching Tesla's bifilar wound coil because in the wiki article it is unclear wether the magnetic field is multiplied by say for example a factor of 4 for the same input power or is it just 1+1? , if the field is being multiplied greater than 1+1 then obviously the collapsing field is going to be greater and hence the voltage spike greater.

dutchy1966

Hi runningbare,

I haven't got the exact despriction at hand right now but i do remember the coil works so much better because the voltage potential between two loops is so much higher. Normally the voltage is increasing evenly over the length of the coil. Say you had a 50 turn coil then each turn would have one volt differnce to the next. But when you do as tesla did then you suddenly get 50 Volts difference between turns and therfore the magnetic field is much stronger.  The energy stored in the coil as a whole will now be two hundred and fifty thousand as great.

I'll have a look for the exact explanation .....

Robert

Nikola Tesla explains that a standard coil of 1000 turns with a potential of 100 volts across it will have a difference of 0.1 volt between turns. A similar BIFILAR coil will have a potential of 50 volts between turns.
In that the stored energy is a function of the square of the voltages the energy in the BIFILAR will be ...


50 squared / .1 squared   =   2500 / .01   =   250,000  times greater than the standard coil

edit: FOUND IT..... http://www.magnetricity.com/NeoG/Bifilar.php

RunningBare

This idea is just in the test phase presently

I have added an additional capacitor of 3300mfd to the low frequency section of the pulse circuit and adjusted timing for approx 10 seconds on, 70 seconds off, the 10 seconds on gives enough time for the flow to start, the 70 seconds gives enough time for the oxide to settle onto the tubes.

Well thats the theory, I will be leaving this over night and will check the results in around 24 hours, but during my waking hours I will change the water hourly.

If I'd had it setup in the right place I would have had a continuous flow of tap water during this, but alas I will need to do the foot work  ::)

RunningBare

Quote from: dutchy1966 on September 09, 2007, 09:41:12 AM

50 squared / .1 squared   =   2500 / .01   =   250,000  times greater than the standard coil

edit: FOUND IT..... http://www.magnetricity.com/NeoG/Bifilar.php

Thanks dutchy, thats very interesting!