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Stanley Meyer replication with low input power

Started by hartiberlin, August 18, 2007, 04:39:57 PM

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TheNOP

Quote from: HissyfitNihilism on September 28, 2007, 09:32:58 PM
No.  I don't agree.  Your understanding of magnetics obviously lacks any realism and came from a comic book.  The strength of the field has everything to do with energy storage...where did you think the energy was stored? 
????

what is the reality then ?

Displacement of energy in a wire create magnetic field and vice versa.
I never saw any capacitors exibiting a magnetic field, perhap you can show me one...

Did you ever tested bifilars ?
What was the outcome, at the ends of the core rode, compaire to a single wire coil ?

I still suggest you buy a magnetometer and test bifilars by yourself.
Has for myself, i will still use bifilars, in it multiple types, where i see them fit based on my own experiments.

TheNOP

Quote from: HissyfitNihilism on September 28, 2007, 11:32:46 PM
It is very hard to tell what you are trying to say, but I think you are telling me that inductors do not store energy in their magnetic fields; only capacitors store energy...is that what you are saying?

I have done many experiments.  They have shown me that bifilar windings offer no advantage except to increase the normally-unwanted self-capacitance as Tesla's patent claims clearly state.

Your theories about "energy displacement" in wires are nonsensical.  Have you been studying at Panacea University?
It is not the inductance that store energy, it is the capacitance, and in inductors capacitance is a really low one.
But sure, that "parasitic" capacitance, must be taken into account when developing an electric circuit where capacitance matter.
Resistance can be an unwanted thing in an inductor too.

I don't really care about if electrons are moving in a wire or if they are put in a higher state of energie.
Suffice to say that something is happening in those wires.
And no matter the way you think it work, you get the same effects.

The biggest difference in bifilars compair to single wire coil, lenght for lenght/size for size, is not in capacitance.
It is the inductance difference.

Magnetic field lag behind current, or is it behind potential...  ::)
What bifilars do is put them in sync or in opposition depending of how you make the connection.

Bifilar are commonly use to reduce or nullify self-inductance or nullify the magnetic field collapse.
But bifilar can also do the opposite.
It only depends on how they are connected in your circuit.


@all
Tuning your bifilar coil(s) could be to water resonance, earth mag field, tubes, etc...
But, what if everythings are tune the proper frequency or one of the harmonic of the base beat...

RunningBare

Quote from: TheNOP on September 29, 2007, 12:49:21 AM
It is not the inductance that store energy, it is the capacitance, and in inductors capacitance is a really low one.



Errr, energy is stored in an inductor, thats what the magnetic field is, when the field collapses the stored energy is released in the form of BEMF.

I understand your thinking, that only a capacitor or similar stores energy and it does seem strange that a wire coil can store energy, but there you have it, a wire coil stores energy in the form of a magnetic field.

Duranza

This is for "Hiss...whatever the puck" why don't you go the the right section of this forum and leave this thread alone. There is a whole section for people like you. It is the skeptics thread. This here section is dedicated to people that are set to build what you deny. So please don't come here to interrupt our progress. If you don't believe it can work than what the hell are you doing reading this forum?
The only way to Validate is to Replicate!

TheNOP

Quote from: RunningBare on September 29, 2007, 03:26:34 AM
Quote from: TheNOP on September 29, 2007, 12:49:21 AM
It is not the inductance that store energy, it is the capacitance, and in inductors capacitance is a really low one.



Errr, energy is stored in an inductor, thats what the magnetic field is, when the field collapses the stored energy is released in the form of BEMF.

I understand your thinking, that only a capacitor or similar stores energy and it does seem strange that a wire coil can store energy, but there you have it, a wire coil stores energy in the form of a magnetic field.
You might be right, stored energy in the form of a magnetic field in coils, but i don't view it like that.

"Electricity" and magnetisim are the same things but in different forms.
Both travel differently in a wire, and giving the proper physical placement of that wire, compaire to itself, you can favor the magnetisim way.

The way i see it is that inductors favor magnetisim as a way to travel the energy trough the wire.
The apply energy always stay the same but split in different forms.

Putting tiny magnets next to each other will get you a bigger overall magnetic field.
That is what self inductance do.

The collapse of a magnetic field have specific effects.
The stronger the field, the stronger the effects.
Use were those effets best apply...


Quote from: HissyfitNihilism on September 29, 2007, 01:22:04 AM
"Suffice to say that something is happening in those wires"

I think this single statement sums up your true knowledge of electronics fundamentals. 

Everything else you say is either absolutely incorrect or completely misstated. 

Good luck...you are in the right place to have your misinformation strongly reinforced.  There is a vast majority here who know as little or less than you do and who profess to know much more.
Then, enlight me.