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Overunity Machines Forum



Formular to calculate energy per liter of HHO gas

Started by hartiberlin, August 21, 2007, 02:18:30 PM

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llewgnal

Quote from: CrazyEwok on January 05, 2009, 08:48:51 PM
lol... you know i hope none of you here with these calculations of thousands of liters per minute actually get a cell or setup that can actually create this... Your gonna blow your entire engine apart... Your calculations are based purly on the petrol numbers... i think you should consider the explosive force and rate at which HHO burns before you start throwing numbers around on what you need to run a car. Lets consider some points first. You will need something in your cylinder besides HHO and atmosphere in order to slow the reaction down (and to cool your exhaust valves) alot of people run steam to do both in high end performance cars. There is now a 3rd item to put into your ratio equation. HHO : Atmosphere : Steam ratio's.
Also being the budding scientists that you are (yes all sarcasm intended) what is the explosive force of HHO compared to petrol??? I hear numbers of around 2.5 times being thrown around (and that is calculated on explosive force) so now to get the same bang per cycle you should be dividing your required amount by 2.5 minimum. Next off the bat is to those of you wanting to run a closed system with HHO... It has been reported that pure HHO when ignited IMPLODES at 4x the power of normal reaction. THATS 4 TIMES THE POWER OF YOUR 2.5 TIMES THE POWER OF PETROL!!! AND IMPLODES i can't see anyone flooding their engine with excessive amounts off straight HHO having it implode mid cycle causing any problems when their cyclinders try to eat their block from the amounts of force they will have to withstand (be aware that engines are designed to run on EXplosive reactions not INplosive) BUT!!! i may be wrong and if you guy do run engines on a closed cycle HHO can you film it and also if/when your engine eats its own cyclinders can you put it on youtube...

Ok so now the sarcasm is out the way some serious thoughts... Off a guestimate from previous experiances i would say you would need a way of distributing your HHO better. From the look of things most peoples cells "might" be able to run an engine (don't get excited) but your delivery system is now where you need to look at things. i would say its now your "air to fuel ratio" that is screwing this up. There is no way you will be able to create enough HHO to feed the vacuum of your air intake to run your car BUT if your not going to use petrol there is now a "free" port that could be used as a controlled delivery system...
Stanley mayers talked about recirculating Co back into gas mixture to slow burn rate...

JimH

Hello everyone... I need a little help please.
I worked with piezo electrics many moons ago and have finally managed to built an hho cell incorperating peizo electrics... the results have me baffled... can you help by taking a look at my video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_4sCArs1-0

Am I really achieving extra/free Volts and amps?
I checked with both volt meters and have been very conservative with all values... but 70 to 80% efficient... surely not!   ???

triffid

Hello,there is about 49 mls of heavy water in every liter of regular water that comes out of the tap.I see no one ever talk about "heavy water" in electroylsis of water.Basically it takes more energy to break it apart than normal water and gets left behind in a water bath.In time all that is left is heavy water.Triffid

JimH


I checked with both volt meters and have been very conservative with all values... but 70 to 80% efficient... surely not!   ???
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Hi all, I found that my measuring tube was only 0.1L and not 0.2L as I had remembered... please disregard my efficiency test.   :-[

IM2L844

I've built an online efficiency calculator for HHO. It's available here:
http://nicksrealm.com/HHO/Calculator.html

If you have any problems, instructions are available in the drop down menu or if you have specific questions, I will be happy to try and answer them in the forums.

Nick