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The truth about "overunity".

Started by Navi-gator, August 11, 2007, 09:10:45 AM

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Iosh

Quote from: HopeForHumanity on August 26, 2007, 01:57:51 AM
I do think though that it would be easier to spread a gift through open source. I mean gifts are free, right?
Ha! Didn't you read? Dante said:

All the cynics so far, have said, "if your giving the World a free gift, THEN GIVE IT TO THEM, and SHUT UP".  We had to clarify this stupid thinking, as NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND, WOULD GIVE THE ACTUAL PLANS AND DESIGNS OF THE TECHNOLOGY, FREE TO THE WORLD, WHEN IT'S WORTH A TRILLION DOLLARS, IN FOUR INDUSTRIES.

There you have your answer. Gifts are given in exchange for big cash apparently. But I won't discuss the meaning of gift or we'll end getting another 5 pages of semantics arguments.

Navi-gator

Quote from: z_p_e on August 25, 2007, 11:10:01 PM
Dante,

Good luck with your fund-raising and promotions. I wish you well. Sounds like you have a plan (albeit a little complex), it's just a matter of implementing it. Presumably you're part of the way through already anyway.

I agree with you 100% on the patent system and process. It is a joke and a sham, and doesn't protect your IP at all. I like your idea of waiting until the last minute to apply for your patent though.

Any idea on a time frame for each phase?





QuoteDarren:

Because you replied in the calm and courteous manner you did, I will spend some time answering your concerns.

In a way your right, wording doesn't make a difference, as you say tomato and I say tomoto, but, they mean the same, in many humans eyes.

But if you look at the World, the "over-unity" phrase goes against all that science thinks, ergo, the reason why they are against anyone who uses this term.

It really doesn't matter, in the long run, but if one wants to live in this World, as I have done, and I wanted to get at least TWO expert scientific opinions, I had to listen to what my PhD.'s had to say, to get what I needed. 

It wasn't easy getting two scientific experts to even listen to me, and if I would have used the term "over-unity", they wouldn't even have talked to me,let alone the positive reports I recieved, but they did only for one reason. 

They knew I was right by what I showed them.  They, being as honest as they could, couldn't beat me down, as I was right, so they had to validate that which they did.

When I re-construct the EM-5000, the only Power Plant in the World that will run itself, electrically,  and supply electrical energy for other work, I will have 6 irrefutable testing labs, and there are 24 or so in the World, that if THEY SAY it is working as claimed, NO ONE in the World can go against these, as these are World class experts and recognized by the World as such.

This is the ireffutable proof you speak of, BUT, I will not show it to anyone, except those who help us.  I have no reason to do otherwise, as I have been validated by two of the best, and thats all I needed.  If entities do not believe these, they wouldn't believe 100 or 1000.

Now, about if I am right or not, as you say. 

You find any other man's work, that is as complete as mine, that can explain it like I do, and can even explain the Old Science that made my work possible, plus I explain, as well as I can without giving secrets away, the New Science I use!

  I do not think you will be able to, simply because what I have discovered is a totally New Science not understood by anyone yet, but I am not trying to make all understand, just the few we need to join us, and then, science and the rest of the World will get in in a few decades or so.

But, even that aside, I don't expect, because of the cynical World we live in, for anyone to believe it, EXCEPT those who join us for their own reasons.

I have another ace up my sleeve, but I hesitate to tell you about it, but rest assured, we have one entity on our side, that NO ONE in the World can beat on.

The point is:  No one can disprove anything I say, either my New Science or the Old Science it came from.  Yes, they can come up with cynical remarks, but no one can prove it with facts, as I prove what I need to with facts.  And you do know, a fact is only a fact, if it can be researched!

Can I expect YOU to make a healthy contribution and join us as a friend?

Now, to answer your other questions, as I am spending time to explain things to you, because you are the first gentleman to put things into a conversation mode, and not a stupid cynical mode.

We will Introduce the technology and Power Plant to the World, when our fund-drive is complete, and we re-construct the EM-5000, to run itself as I claim.  Sorry, if this doesn't meet with your time table, but your talking to a 72 year old man, who has spent near 50 years with this technology, and I don't mind waiting another year or two, GOD willing.

NO, you will NEVER buy a Power Plant, because we are going to LEASE them!  We have to keep the secrets as long as we can, and although if we lose one Power Plant design, I have nine others to beat the first one.  Any competition will always, for at least thirty or so,  years, be behind our Licensees..

The point is, there are millions out there who will reverse engineer, if we sell them one.  They have the right to do anything they want with it, if they own it.  BUT, if we own it, protect it and make sure all units are accounted for, even the big Power Plants will be owned by Licensees and they will, as well, protect the technology, BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO PAY  ALOT for their Licenses.

That brings me to your last question.  NO, we or I will not Patent any Power Plant.

Reason being, if I would have Patened it ten years ago, my time would be running out, and the World's Power Brokers and dictaotors and thieving countries,  would have the design plans for their own use, say like the Chinese who do not recognize American or any other countries Patents.

When the time is right, and that is the day a Licensee breaks ground on the first large scale Power Plant, HE will Patent it, and HE will own it, and HE will protect it, and his seventeen year period will start about three years after he files the first Patent, so he will get the maximum time allowed by law, to earn a profit, before it is ripped off.

There are some on the market who now have Patents, I agree, but these are not powerful enough to solve the Worlds needs and wants, ergo, they will not get ripped off, BUT when our technology is known, it will shake the very foundations of physics, upset economies, and be very, very valuable to those who own Licenses for them.

There's not much more I can say, and thank you for your good wishes, and I hope to see your name on our contribution  list, tomorow!

Dante..


qbjorn

Nice business plan - if you started it...

I'm unfortunately rather convinced that IF the science of TheGift is true, then their business plan will give Dante the same fame&fortune as e.g. Stanley Meyer, Edvin Gray, T.H Moray et.al...
Which is exactly the status quo that our governing powers want.

However, giving away full disclosure licensed through GPL (or similar) would make him a true household name for decades to come and probable give him a $1.5Million cash gift through the Noble Prize.

If not before, he'll probably wish on his deathbed that he'd have chosen the second option...

hansvonlieven

G'day all,

The whole Dante business sounds like a scam to me. Vague promises, outrageous claims that no-one can verify and a hand open to collect cash.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx