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Hydrogen Efficiency And Power

Started by wizkycho, March 13, 2006, 05:02:09 AM

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August 03, 2006, 05:50:22 PM
Quote from: joule on August 03, 2006, 02:26:34 PM
For those of you that get excited fast, calm down and look at some real numbers.

Hydrogen = ~ 2.7 Watts per STP Liter
or 60.48 Watts per mole, with a mole being ~ 22.7 Liters.

If you want 1kW/Hr equiv. you need 3,600,000 Watts/Sec (Joules)

W/Sec are watt seconds or SI Joules.

The energy calculator stated above works properly if properly applied.

Sorry I just could not let this pass, so wrong to say it as above...

what to pass !?!

this numbers are exact and naked fact:

ONLY 1ml of water if dissociated in one second to H and O will if fired (exploded or burnt) through 1 second
release 14kWs of energy or 14kJ.

so ONLY 0.111g (pure mass not weight) of hydrogen will release 14kWs or 14kJ. do You(Joule) agree on this ?
that is all that is stated.

It is not stated that efficient method to dissociate ONLY 1ml per sec of water exists or be proven to exist... for now,
and only for now...

wizkycho

Clara Listensprechen

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August 11, 2006, 09:31:42 PM
Quote from: joule on August 03, 2006, 02:26:34 PM
For those of you that get excited fast, calm down and look at some real numbers.

Hydrogen = ~ 2.7 Watts per STP Liter
or 60.48 Watts per mole, with a mole being ~ 22.7 Liters.

If you want 1kW/Hr equiv. you need 3,600,000 Watts/Sec (Joules)

W/Sec are watt seconds or SI Joules.

The energy calculator stated above works properly if properly applied.

Sorry I just could not let this pass, so wrong to say it as above...
In what/which fuel cell?  Seems to me you're leaving out too much information to be jumping to the conclusion you're jumping to, as if maybe you're a BP plant?  ;D

Hydrogen used as a combustible isn't used to generate joules; it's used to generate ergs.  Maybe I'm missing something but I don't see wattage generated even when combusted, by itself.  Y'all are ignoring the generating equipment required, and that's a variable, not a constant.

Now then--it's not carved in stone that you have to disassociate oxygen from water to get hydrogen.  It's a whole lot easier to part hydrogen from sulfur. 

Leave water alone; it's a precious enough resource the way it is.  Use hydrogen sulfide.
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