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Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator

Started by wattsup, September 09, 2007, 12:42:30 PM

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markdansie

I have to confer with Stephan, I am a little confused.
I think you need a constant load and you should do two tests..one with a properly timed pulsed sequence..the other continuos load over say 10 minutes for both.
A couple of cheap power meters (like they use to measure you power consumption at home) would have also been useful.
Thanks for the effort its much appreciated
I do encourage you and Chas but this is a long way from what was claimed earlier this year during the TV interview.
Kind Regards
mark

wattsup

@Ash

Thanks fo rall the effort you guys put into this.

All you needed to find out what Chas' device was really doing is a few lights, put on one at a time to increase the load while doing in/out watts. I also do not get the drill thing at 4 seconds.

This was an opportunity to measure Chas' wheel under varying steady load conditions.

But for all intents and purposes, we can see it does not work to OU level, with or without RV, although the methodology seemed lax.

But I saw what I wanted to see and thanks for that.

Did you all notice how long it took for the wheel to stop once the caps were turned off? Nice action. Ah hah.

Based on what I saw on the video, Alternative #1 or #2 seems to be the move for me to consider. Question of time.

Ash, when I suggested you start selling the circuits, it was not to make any cash, but to get more guys testing RV. Anyways, thanks again for your good work.
All the best to Chas.

ltseung888

Please refer to:

http://forum.go-here.nl/viewtopic.php?p=285#285

Mr. X is an influential person in China.  He and team provided seed money for Sun et al on a Pulse Motor Prototype.

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Tseung: "I know that you have already provided seed money to Sun et al to develop a Pulse Motor Prototype. Do you think you might consider seed money for the Chas Campbell device also?"

Mr. X: "My Advisors and I read the overunity.com posts. It appears that the Chas Campbell Electricity Magnifier Flywheel is still in an early development stage. My Advisors could learn much more with a visit to Tsing Hua University than a trip to Australia."

Lai: "I would like to lay out the comparisons:
(1) Chas Campbell uses Flywheels instead of Cylinders. (He knows the importance of having weights at the rim to increase the centripetal force.)
(2) Chas Campbell has no auto-adjustment mechanism yet. (Adjusting the belt tension by hand is not close to auto-adjustment.)
(3) Chas Campbell has given out the exact dimensions and type of motor and alternators for others to replicate. (There will still be considerable resonance tuning. A marketable toy will be better - goal of Sun et al.)
(4) Chas Campbell has no theory to explain the source of energy yet (Tsing Hua University and Sun et al have accepted the Lee-Tseung theory).
(5) Chas Campbell has no team to back him up. (Tsing Hua University and Sun et al have access to the best experts in China including Lee and Tseung.)"

Mr. X: "In addition, I can monitor Sun et al easily. They are in China. I do not want to run the risk of the 225 HP Pulse Motor experience - the USA Government refused export of the device even though the Funder was Chinese. I do not mind funding a replication of the Chas Campbell device in China when appropriate."

Lawrence Tseung
Fear of Foreign Government Actions Leads Out non-support of the Chas Campbell device (but Leads Out seed money for Pulse Motor in China).
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ltseung888

Quote from: wattsup on September 19, 2007, 01:15:39 AM
@Ash

Thanks for all the effort you guys put into this.

All you needed to find out what Chas' device was really doing is a few lights, put on one at a time to increase the load while doing in/out watts. I also do not get the drill thing at 4 seconds.

This was an opportunity to measure Chas' wheel under varying steady load conditions.

But for all intents and purposes, we can see it does not work to OU level, with or without RV, although the methodology seemed lax.

But I saw what I wanted to see and thanks for that.

Did you all notice how long it took for the wheel to stop once the caps were turned off? Nice action. Ah hah.

Based on what I saw on the video, Alternative #1 or #2 seems to be the move for me to consider. Question of time.

Ash, when I suggested you start selling the circuits, it was not to make any cash, but to get more guys testing RV. Anyways, thanks again for your good work.
All the best to Chas.

I too appreciate the effort from Ash and other members of the Forum in the investigation of the Chas Campbell Device.

From my own experience, I believe some kind of tuning is required.  There is very little chance that the Chas Campbell Flywheel can be equally efficient for all external loads and conditions.  Unfortunately, tuning requires much playing with the device.

(Pushing a swing at the wrong time will do more harm than good.)

Lawrence Tseung
Pulse Rotation Leads Out the requirement for Tuning.

Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ashtweth_nihilisti

HI Guys,

Yes i am confused too, those watt hour meters obviously show a difference in efficiency, maybe they were not calibrated like our meters were.I know our meters (the digital AMP ones) are fine as we tested a resistive load to calibrate them, lets model off them, the Watt hour meters close enough to total time?.

Okay lets get to the Q's and A's

Stefan>Did you change the idle RPMs so the input current was bigger ?

No, must be a difference in calibration Stefan ???

Mark>I think you need a constant load and you should do two tests..one with a properly timed pulsed sequence..the other continuous load over say 10 minutes for both.

Sure, engineers resisted with Panacea have provided a pulse circuit which we published, plus we got all the dimensions so ANY one can preform these tests you requested with their own replication.

We don't have any fixed resistors on us ATM but i will work at it,

Stefan>4 seconds on, 1 second off, 4 seconds on, 1 second off, 4 seconds on, 1 second off, 4 seconds on, 1 second off, etc..as you wanted to do.You just made it maybe 3 to 4 seconds on and then waited much too long, until you switched it on again..

Right sorry for that Stefan i was not sure of this, I guess we know in future to make sure this [Me] dumb ass knows   :P like those EXACT directions ;).  If Mark is all for it, i can contact Chas and arrange an appointment for the NEC, In the mean time ill do my best to get the request filled.

@ watts

right sure but a too big light will load down the system, also in that video we have 2 60 watt globes in the ALT! , maybe load them up turn them off and on for 4-1 ?

Stefan<Also using these saws as a load are very bad for measurements,as they are drawing a very high current switch on-current.

Isnt that what we want, a high extraction of current for the out put? okay, maybe i am not understanding, bottom line is this system can be replicated and tested mean time by any one as we have full disclosure, mean time ill work on finding the resistors and light loads requested, and also leave it open to mark for further investigation.

now my 2 cents

Best way to confirm is to replicate this and try it with different pule extraction circuits, you never know until you try.

@Lawrence

If i was to apply any thing towards Chas, my personal opinion is that his wheel is more promising, and i would CONSIDER applying some thing towards this replication or him finishing construction.

bottom line is if any one did, he would TELL the world how he did it, and not patent it etc.
?If you create your own electricity, heating and water systems, you create your own politics. Maybe that?s what they?re afraid of.? ?? Michael Reynolds
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org
http://www.panaceauniversity.org

http://www.geocities.com/glorybangla/cqtes.htm