Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator

[wattsup]

Ok, I am starting this new thread to get away from the Chas Campbell Perpetual Motion Wheel cause there is just too much clutter and blah blah.

I put this in the RV section because there is no section on the board dealing with no-name brand non-RV motor generators, at least I could not find one.

I have also removed the prevous text below figuring those that needed to read it have done so. there is no point to leave it continuously.

I am putting the original design of Chas' Flywheel Generator (CFG) below and will add any pretinent build information here as it is identified.

[wattsup]

@Ash and @Chas

I have taken time and looked over the design of the fylwheel system as shown in the figure given by @Hans via someone at Panacea (I think).

First and foremost the design does not show enough bearings. Each wheel should have its bearings on both sides of the pulleys, plus the drive and generator should be on a bearing via a coupling. The pulleys should never be on the motors as you do not want to create any horizontal or side stress on the rotor bearings. You want that motor to only turn without side stress, and, you don't want the pulleys to move one iota.

OK, from what I have observed with flywheels, the main thing is to isolate it as much as possible from both the drive and the generator.

Currently, the flywheel is going directly to a 9" pulley then to a 4.5" pulley and in my view, this is where the design has its weakness.

As soon as there is drag on the Generator, with a 9" to 4.5" you will still feel the drag. You have to put a smaller pulley on the output side of the flywheel so you have the easiest rotations possible and gear upwards from there. This ensures the flywheel always has strength and is not directly coupled so close to the drag.

Please take a look at the designs I have prepared as alternatives along with the Chas' original design. Plus you can see the rpms per pulley.

Alternative #1 uses most of the current pulley sizes so this could be an easy modification.

Alternative #2 is for people who may want to start from scratch. The 3-6-9 uses only 3", 6" and 9" pulleys. Seems very interesting.  You can call it the ChasTeslian Wheel cause Tesla liked three's and I'm sure he would like Chas.

The main idea behind the alternatives is that they ensure the drag from the generator is as far away from the flywheel as possible. The gearing gives the whole system strength to overcome the drag. You would have to start the system with the generator at off position to get up to speed then connect the generator and gradually increase power until you reach your maximum potential. I would not use an RV setup as you will require the full torque of the PM.

Now these alternatives are based on the PM with an RPM of 1430. If you change the RPM (hint hint) you would need to change the pulley sizes. IDEALLY, the system should have a higher rpm PM, looking to bring the flywheel in the 5000 rpm range, then let any drag bring it down to 3200. Right now with a 1430 rpm motor, this is not possible. I imagine these gearings would also apply to 60hz with slighlty higher RPM but I did not crunch the numbers.

[wattsup]

Actually, if I decided to make a CFG unit, I would probably not use a generator at first. I would use a positive displacement water pump and loop water from a tank with a flow meter, pressure gauge and flow control valve. This way I could get my performance results in GPM/PSI which can be translated to HP/WATTS.

First, the water pump could easily be coupled to the Prime Mover to get a direct 1:1 performance reading. Then it could be placed on each pulley section to measure the different results, all the way through to the final output side. Once I would have these results, this would then show if the system produced more than the PM direct. I could then choose the right generator to match the system, and/or  make changes in pulley sizes to see if it can be improved further.

[rensseak]

@Ash and @Chas

First and foremost the design does not show enough bearings.

The more bearing the more friction and losses.

[hansvonlieven]

G'day all,

For those of you that are interested in this technology there is another thread on this forum called  General flywheel questions started by ken_nyal that might be relevant.

Personally I have doubts that any new discoveries will be made in relation to flywheels. The technology is old and very well understood by science. No-one has in several hundred years of research ever reported over unity in relation to flywheels, no credible report that is.

But have a go just the same, every opportunity for learning is worth something.

Hans von Lieven