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Overunity Machines Forum



Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator

Started by wattsup, September 09, 2007, 12:42:30 PM

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Humbugger

Quote from: ashtweth_nihilisti on September 10, 2007, 10:49:49 PM

The VAR and reactive power in the RV is measured and extracted using circuitry which taps the RF nodes/resonance, and or the peak sine waves through his non conventional understanding.  ::)

All explanations of this [How its done measured plus how we don't series load resonance] are in the compilations. These circuits are from TEST RESULTS which have reported extraction of resonance or RF or reactive power , the circuits tested are posted in the compilations.   ::)

The loads were batteries [resistive/mechanical] this is posted in the compilations, We already stated that the duty cycle is needed (as per Stefans advice) to Confirm the pulsed out puts and made this very clear.   ::)


rMuD

Quote from: Humbugger on September 11, 2007, 04:22:00 AM
@Mem

Thanks for your kind words of courage.  I am severely outnumbered but not intimidated.

Humbugger


Sorry for abandoning you

rMuD

My money is on the MIB is going to take the device on the 13th..   the initial test was that it was a bad driving motor..  and the rotoverter was coming to the rescue on the 15th

rated Watts on the sticker are the worst possible case of worn out nearly dead device, and motors it's start current needed..  they had a Watt meter on it, and clearly showed the real power in/out

I'm kinda sad that right now there are no Cambell Flywheel machines for sale on ebay right now,  Guess everyone heard that their rotary UPS was overunity, and are hording them for free power :)


mscoffman


Humbugger and others in this forum topic;

You are missing an important technical detail in your discussion!

Medium voltage pulsed current at approximately 2x times the voltage or above on an acid/lead storage battery causes
a process identical to *nuclear cold fusion* to occur in the battery. In a battery, this extra energy vests itself as
additional charge in the battery. Period. The actual pulse waveform is very noncritical. Very little net energy needs
to be transfered in this recharge pulse signal. This is why acid/lead storage batteries make a good transducer of static
electricity. This doesn't have anything to do with instrumentation mis-reading or mis-calculation. Cold fusion is not
accepted by many scientists because of its lack of diagnostic radiation...but that is just tough because it is still
occurring in batteries.

It is postulated that this takes place in the water (which is naturally deuturiated) in the electrolyte
of the acid/lead battery so other type batteries/capacitors may not necessarily show this same feature.
In the concentrated low impedance electrolyte of a battery my feeling is that a small amount of electrostatic
charge assists in the reaction. Most likley some trace amounts of tritium (radioactive hydrogen isotope,
half life=12yrs) remains as ash in this process and is not supressed. Actually this is the same process that
occurs in the HHO experiments and many other types which are showing net energy gain. You will notice
the similarity of an acid/lead storage battery to the  Fleischman/Pons hydrolysis experiment. This is no
accident. Fleischman and Pons got it wrong because  the process has nothing to do with loading of hydrogen
into a metal matrix is has to do with secondary bubble formation on the surface of metals which I call cavitation
bubbling - that is what the recharge pulse signal is controlling. I postulate that the diagnostic radiation is
being suppressed by Quantum Mechanics  first principles as the vacuum bubble ordering shrinks towards
the zero point. In other words Zero Point Suppression of Radioactive Effects - ZPSRE rather than ZPE.
As far as I am concerned The conservation of matter/energy law is still in effect as I have seen nothing that
seriously that contradicts it. Many other operating overunity experiments have this mechanism at their
center either acknowledged or unacknowledged.

But then everyone already knew these things right? ::)

Mark S. Coffman

wattsup

Geez, I had prepared a post on this question but left for the office before I posted it. So here goes.

RV or not RV, drag is drag. (Taken from Shakespeares' Motorolisis.lol)

Chas Quote
I ended up with an alternator fitted with a 4.5inch pulley driven by a 9inch pulley the alternator speed was 3146 rpm at that speed it was easy to run electrical applicances for a period now to the most important part to keep the wheel spinning.
Chas unquote

Chas said it all right here. The 9 to 4.5 inch is direct to the gen. If the gen produces 1 of drag, the flywheel will feel 3 or 4 of drag. You have to come out of the flywheel pulley to a larger pulley. Look at Alternative #1 or #2. There is no other way that you will be able to beat the drag.

Also, if you read Tao's thread on BEMF or CEMF, it is clear that BEMF happens simultaneous to current application or production. When you cut the current, you produce flyback. But when you put the current back on, you still produce BEMF which is producing your drag. The best and simplest way to overcome this is by mechanical means if the flywheel is properly configured. Or figure out a way to keep the stator as an open circuit so there is never any drag (did I say that?). Actually Mark S. Coffman was on that thread also and he is now here.

Anyways, time will tell.

But come'on guys, this is not an RV punching session (or cat fight). The object of this is to get Chas' wheel working with or without RV and your dicussions are already known.

So let's keep focused on the system.


@Ash

Regarding Panacea circuits. Why don't you guys offer them for sale. I will buy one and many others would also. Alot of guys that can reproduce Chas' system know didly squat about how to make the circuit, and they are not about to start. If the circuit could be made with removable chips or tranistors or whatever, etc., these could be easilly replaced if any are blown (given Murphey's Law). Imagine in a year from now if Panacea had 50 or 100 or these circuits sold (all made the same way for constant replication results). That's 50 to 100 people that can do replications and further testing. Alot better then maybe the three or so guys that have managed to make a circuit thus far.

Also, Panacea could publish "RV for Dummies" (not for me hey). Staring you and Hum as the protagonist and antagonist writers. lol. Just jok'in.

Please keep this in mind. Not every system can benefit by RV. Maybe Chas' Flywheel needs pure brute force to push it to the revs and resonance to keep it turning against drag. Maybe the current supplied by RV is to weak. You have to keep an open mind that RV may not always be the do all end all for electric motors. Reducing current draw means you are removing the FULL FORCE of tension on the motor, and this could play against you. So then you have to play around with controlling the generator drag, controlling a clutch, and what else.

We are all in the same boat. If RV was the answer, I would be selling systems now, to an unlimited host of clients and I would be paying Panacea a royalty per unit. So please, let's keep perspective.

So the questions is, do you want to achive OU regardless, or do you want to achieve OU only with RV in all cases.

Tests should be done without and with RV to compare. Also I would recommend that the system be run for at least 30 minutes to take the drive motor temperature with and without RV, as I have seen RV method heat up the motor considerably in my tests when under load.

Chas deserves that we keep clear and objective heads to solve his system.

Best regards.

"Why is it that the most difficult force to overcome in order to reach OU... is ourselves." (a Hmmmmmmmm moment brought to you by wattsup).