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Tesla Switch need help

Started by TheOne, September 16, 2007, 07:27:52 PM

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plengo

As I am charging my 4 batteries for the next step (4 Tesla Switch) I was trying to understand some phenomena that I have. Once running the "3 switch" I notice that one of the batteries had a 12.3v but as soon I disconnected momentarely and connected them again (in the same configuration - I was measuring voltages) I notice that that particular battery dropped voltage to something like 9v or lower and would not come back. The whole circuit right after would climb  down to a "totaly looser".

I was absolutely impressed. I just had posted my good findings (standing still and running good....) just right before this finding. Now, that I have plenty of time while charging the batteries and not doing anything but just prep work, I thought about it. My conclusions: for the 4 batteries to stand they MUST keep their voltages (even ghost voltages) so that IMPEDANCE is equivalent to the load circuit. As soon things change it will drop to a hill bottom.

That leads me to also, prematurely, conclude that voltage is VERY important, current is NOT.After all, there is not such a thing as current (my thoughts...).

Ghost voltage WILL hold this thing up. That's sound very interesting since Bedini and Tesla state that batteries voltages were pretty much the same as in the begginging. But as some others had done they will not stand a load.

As I was doing my experiments and changing some cables here and there (trying to balance batteries with SSG feedback) I notice many, many things. Some I have written down and some led me to more changes (Oh boy, I have to write this things down, never to believe I will remember them later). The obvious (the ones that I think I understand) I just changed but the ones that I did not understand I did write it down. Conclusions:
- the 3 battery system will not change the voltage of the "middle" battery. It will "think" it is only a conduct. But funny that that battery does not care about all the load irrelevant of how much that current is, could be 25ma to 1amp.
- feedback-ing to the MIDDLE battery (point above) will TOTATLY change the behaviour of the system. It will "think" it has a lot more "charge and potential" and will deliver a expressive voltage and current for a good time. Until the "other two" batteries "think" they lost their power. They never had any extra power to start with. Only connecting the SSG load into the system back (remember, SSG only deliver very little current and High voltage) would change dramaticaly everything until all is stabilized.
- stabilization lead always to a certain specific delivery voltage (load voltage, in my case 2.7 to 3v) because of the load itself. Current was limited by what the batteries now "think" they can deliver (since load has not changed a bit, so must be the other "system" changing, right?!!!).
- The amount of load makes NO difference. It is all about how much the batteries can receive as input without "thinking" is cost of a load. That one will be difficult to explain in my observations: More LEDs would cost my system more current but no more voltage (???!!!!). Time make no difference to how long to run, but changing the load frequently (more LEDS, less LEDs, more LEDS again, less LEDS) would make the system to adjust every-single time to it. Sometimes it would change in the sence of voltage delivery other times would change on the current delivery (which were the most costly on a long run). So I noticed that Voltage drop was VERY important (changing impedance???).
- There were poinst where thought this thing would run forever, but it changed the most right there. Could be what I see when load testing the batteries, they stand for such a time and them drop 1 or 2 volts and goes on again. But this time I could see that I would just stay running until something else changed and them bummm, it drop. The something else was me changing parameters back and fourth. Next time I will be more consistent. But unfortunately this one I can not advocate because of too many variables.
- batteries dont care about current IF they are not holding it. I think this is the MOST IMPORTANT thing I found out about this system. Think!!! how can one battery receive all the "power" from another battery after passing (let's say a lamp) and accept it? Reversal "electron flow" would charge the battery? and still leave at the other node and still think it is charging? (dumb battery, does not understand anything about savings account LOL...). No, current flow (what ever that may be) is irrelevant. This is about SIGNAL exchange. Synch is HIGHLY important. They must "think" they have not loosed anything, neither received anything, neither moved anything. Do you see what I am thinking?

I know I am stupid, but those ARE my conclusions based on my observations.

@Groundloop,
since You are the one with the most testing and progressing towards real circuits and logic here, can you express in more details your observations? (Please) I am dying to kknow what you have found out. I know you said a few times that IN was less than OUT but for me that means absolutely nothing because there is still so many variables for US to digest and work upon. Then only, then we will be able to state for sure IN < OUT (no OU). Do you have more empirical data whatever that may be?

Fausto.


Groundloop


Super

Hi @ all

wow, how much to read after my last visit  :) (was in holidays over silvester)

As far as i read  ... the idea with the transformer or inductance is great, close to the mueller experiments.

I hope to find some time to study all your circuits.

Hmm, whats about double switching? Sorry did not read all for now ... double switching makes the think a way more complex as it is today.
Switching the batteries at low speeds ~ 20 cps or less (4 battery switching), and switching the main-power-way on/off  at high clockrates ~ 400Hz up to xx Mhz (optional transformer in mass connection between the batteries - mueller report 2 battery experiment ...) .

@ Groundloop, please give me some time to look at your circuit, very busy with my work (holidays are over  ;) )

@ Plengo, cool new videos thx for sharing with us!

Super

Mem

@Groundloop 
I built your circuit, (to see the original circuit, go to page #6)
and worked right away. But for some reason coil rings like a speaker when I put a magnet on it.  Output is around 50 V , input is adjustable from 40 ma to several amp. It?s a very good battery and capacitor charger.
During the operation there is low audioable ring that comes from the coil. 
I tried to close the loop by using large mf capacitor on the output, and then use that capacitor to power the circuit? It worked for 3 seconds.
I tried to charge the same battery while it was powering the circuit:
After for some trial and error I found out that 12 volt and 40 ma input was able to charge the it?s own battery in 6 minutes battery voltage from: 12.12 volt to12.15 volt. (Higher then 40 ma input amps drains it's own battery)
I left the device on more then an hour and voltage remain the same 12.15
This device has the ability to quickly charge DC capacitors more then 200 volts.
Thanks for making and sharing the circuit.
Mem>>

Groundloop