Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.

[CTG Labs]

P.S.   That's the miracle of the Maxwell equations Dave,  the man discovered that the previous EM equations were not complete and consevation of charge was violated, so he added a term and made the equations more consitent, but then he discovered that mathematicaly they showed an electromagnetic wave can propagate with the speed of light equal to 1/sqrt(u e), which are just quantities measured in a lab, the permeability and permitivity.   So you can imagine the excitement the man had when he realized what he discovered.   The Michelson-Morley experiments on the movement of the eather, seemed to disprove it's existance, but whatever you call it, it's there, whether you call it space-time, vacum or whatever, it's the void of space and it has these electromagnetic properties which are captured by the Maxwell equations.

Now we get to the nity gritty!


Thanks,

Dave.

[EMdevices]

It is accepted that these fields exist, but we do not know how.  This is what I am getting at!  Yes, off topic I admit.  But I cannot accept things without knowing HOW.  We cannot just accept math on paper.

I think I see what you're driving at 

Well I don't know exactly how gravity is created but I design things based on it's OBSERVED BEHAVIOR.  Same with Electromagnetics, Acoustics, etc.. etc..   

I would say, these things are not just math on paper,  it's observations which are described compactly by mathematical notation. (try explaining in words an exponential function), but the ultimate reality is the observation, the physics of it.

So math is only a tool, a type of "language" we use to describe observations and experiments we make.

But I will say this,  progress has been made by mathematical manipulations in this regard.  I test antennas and it's so reasuring to see a radiation patern come out close to what you calculated with algorithms and computers.

So if you want to know how it BEHAVES, I can help, if you want to know WHY it behaves like that, I can't realy help, nobody can except God (but he's not talking  .

EM

[CTG Labs]

Hi EM,

I agree.  It seems, as is heavily with Quantum Mechanics for example that we can only have a mathmatical theory which describes what we see.  There is nothing in it which tells us WHY things are this way.

The WHY is the driving force behind why I have spent my entire life on this journey!  But probably we will never know!

Anyway, I think I have stolen GKs thread away from him for long enough.

I wanted someone skilled in the arts to confirm to me that they can exist in space but we have no idea how to ensure I was not going mad.  But ask any one outside of FE circles and they will not acknowledge the question and that really gets my goat!

Although and there is more!  Does not our existing theories of magnetic fields require matter for them too exist and so our own theories preclude them from existing in space even though they do.  Does this not tell us something is wrong?  Thus why the notion of the Aether was invented, another example of fudging?


Regards to all,


Dave.

[sparks]

    Einstein's dilemma, the photon the massless energy particle was observed being effected by mass.  Special relativity was invented and promoted and all of a sudden mass warped spacetime but only if it was real big.  Physicists have been propping up this deck of cards ever since.

[giantkiller]

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