Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.

[giantkiller]

@Sparks,
I agree. And when 2 of more frequencies are used, and the heterodyne product is run back around into a low winding feedback that encompasses all the layers you get the wide field emmision from the copper all over the coils. It should be obvious to all that the energy was escaping externally instead of being captured internally.

The choices are single or more DC sine waves with possible bias or square waves. Energy emitting outward instead of inward. At sometime when you get the energy / speed, nod nod, wink wink faster that the copper coil can conduct the energy flies away from the copper.. No so with capturing / aligning the atomic product.

@Localjoe,
Yes. That is what the center coil is for. But until I or others combinations come to bear I am sticking with low thermal viability / plastic. Roberto has also stated the same premise. I want to make it tthrough the lot of combinations to see all that work. I will work in glass when the time comes. I could easily wrap a number of rods together to start a winding form. Ceramic would be nice, like the knife sharping rods. But that permits edges instead of cylindrical winds. I am also looking into tourmaline http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourmaline.

--giantkiller. I have alot of combinations but from a base set that I don't have to stray from. And it doesn't take much power.

[armagdn03]

  @ armegedon

       Yes it was a question.  Just trying to figure out with the help of others how to extract useable energy from a vortex electrical field. 

You cannot extract any energy from a vortex. thats not the point, thats not what you are trying to do. You are trying to figure out the fundamental movement of energy, vortexes could be involved, but the point is you want your machines to work like the fundamental movement, you want it to be balanced and work with the natural movement of electrical disturbances.

@GK if your coils are to cut to ressonant length, then you might want to try square waves, as they tend to give more rich range of harmonics.

[giantkiller]

The rules of what Keely operated by have intrigued me for a long time. I dug into it but then I saw the different gases, spheres, pressures he applied because his doctrine fell right in line with I read in Walter Russell.

And here is a real world example:
http://www.keelynet.com/keely/mayacous.txt
Tuned shells with the surounding ballcourt environment.

Here is where the numbers, that so many had posted before, were expressed:

       The rhythmic relations in which  force acts are everywhere, under
   all conditions, and  at  all  times,  the  same.    They   are   found
   experimentally to be  universally  expressible  by  the  mathematical
   relations of thirds.

        These threefold relations may  be  expressed with regard to their
   results as,--

                          I. Assimilative.
                         II. Individualizing.
                        III. Dominant or Resultant.

        From these three actions are derived the three fundamental;

                           LAWS OF BEING.

         I. Law  of Assimilation: every individualized object assimilates
            itself to all other objects.

        II. Law  of  Individualization:   every   such  object  tends  to
            assimilate all other objects to itself.

       III. Law of the Dominant: every such object is such  by  virtue of
            the higher   or  dominant  force  which  controls  these  two
            tendencies.

        Applying these  fundamental   laws   to  an  explanation  of  the
   universe, as it  is brought to human cognition, all manifestations  of
   force may be treated as modes of vibrations. The essential differences
   give rise to three modes of vibration:--

         I. The   Radiative   :   called   also   the  `Dispersing,'  the
            `Propulsive,' the `Positive,' and the `Enharmonic.'

        II. The Focalizing: called also  the  `Negative,'  the  `Negative
            Attractive,' the `Polarizing,' and the `Harmonic.'

       III. The Dominant: called also the `Etheric,' or the `Celestial.'

        These, it will be noted, correspond to the three  laws  of being.
   It is not  to  be  understood  that  any  one  of these three modes of
   vibration can exist  independently.   Each   by  itself  is  called  a
   `current,' and all three must be present in every `stream'  or  `flow'
   of force. The  relations of the currents in every flow are expressible
   in thirds, and it is experimentally  demonstrable that the relation of
   the three are in the order named: as 33 1/33 : 66 2/3 : 100.

        The evolution of what is called `matter' from the different modes
   of vibration is  through  the  action  of  the  second  law,  that  of
   focalization, or `negative attraction,' or `negative affinity.'

        Where the  vibrations under this mode meet, and are maintained in
   a stated of mutual affinity or equilibrium,  there is established what
   is called a `neutral centre,' or, as otherwise expressed,  a centre of
   sympathetic coincidence.

        The terms  `neutral  attraction,'  `neutral  affinity,' `negative
   attraction,' or `polar negative attraction,'  are  employed to express
   the property of  a  mode of vibration to direct its components  toward
   such centre.

        As no  current  or  flow  of force can be composed of one mode of
   vibration only, but must always be  composed of three modes uniting in
   varying thirds, we have 1 x 2 x 3 = 6 as the total possible  forms  of
   sympathetic coincidence, or,  to speak in ordinary terms, there can be
   six; and six only, possible forms of  individualized  being. These are
   what Keely calls the six orders of atomic subdivision,  or  orders  of
   vibratory motion, and he names them as follows:

                         I. Molecular.
                        II. Inter-molecular.
                       III. Atomic.
                        IV. Inter-atomic.
                         V. Etheric.
                        VI. Inter-etheric.

        In this last the forms of matter are arranged in the mathematical
   sequence of the  rapidity  of  the  oscillations  of their constituent
   members; the proportion being proved  by experiment to be as follows :
   for the molecular orders :

                         1 : 3 : 9 : 27 : 81 : 243.

        This arithmetical progression changes in the atomic  orders  to a
   geometrical progression as follows :

                     3 : 9 : 81 : 6561 : 43046721, etc.

        This same  method  of  progression is believed to hold in all the
   orders of vibrations  above  the  molecular,   and  soon  passes  into
   mathematical infinity.

        Actually, however,  all  matter  of  which  we   are  capable  of
   cognition through the medium of our senses is in one of three forms of
   aggregation :

                             I. Molecular
                            II. Atomic
                           III. Etheric

   in each of which the controlling mode of vibration is respectively,

                           I. The Enharmonic
                          II. The Harmonic
                         III. The Dominant

   But it must  be  understood that each of these modes is a positive and
   real constituent of every atom and molecule.

        It will be seen that as every  form of material aggregation is to
   be considered as a `neutral centre of attraction,' where the vibratory
   force of all three orders are held in `sympathetic coincidence,'  that
   is, in balanced  activity  or  harmonized motion, and not by any means
   cancelled or mutually destroyed, there  is no diminution of force, but
   only temporary suspension of its radiating or propulsive  activity  or
   expression.

        This is the foundation of Keely's doctrine of `latent force,' and
   of the indefinite  power  which  can  be  obtained  by breaking up the
   harmonious balance or equation of forces  of  every mode, which exists
   in every `neutral centre,' that is to say in every mass of matter.

[sparks]

    I view the vortex electrical field being similar to a standing wave.  A Telsa coil adds energy to a standing wave which increases the amplitude of the wave. At some point depending on the dielectric quality of the field in which the standing wave finds itself an electrical current will ensue changing this potential energy field into an electrical current. (Telsa would take 10's of thousands of watts from conventional alternators running for upwards of two hours and convert this power into a standing wave.) 
    If the tpu creates a vortex electrical field it will also create a magnetic field whose flow potential lines are determined by the tpu current flow direction.  The construct of a vortex electrical field will be accompanied by construct of a torroidal magnetic field.   According to Amperes law an electric current will flow along any interface between magnetic fields of different directions and/or intensities.  If the tpu creates a large standing electrical vortex field it's magnetic field will interface with the magnetic field of the Earth.  Or in Giantkiller's multiple tpu configuration it will interface with a magnetic field of differing direction and or intensity.  This should result in an electrical current. If the counter propogated magnetic fields are superimposed the electrical current will flow along the whole interface of the two fields and you've got yourself a directable electric current free of the constraints of conductors.

@GK

         I call the 3 forces- dispersion/concentration/inertia   as none/as one/ as I am   

[acerzw]

@GK, all

That is an interesting quote from Keely, however the terms he uses seem to me a bit obscure... by his words the Molecular is dominated by Dispersing/ Propulsive/ Positive vibration and the Atomic is dominated by Attractive/ Polarizing/ Negative vibrations.

What does Keely mean when he says 'Molecular' or 'Atomic'... since if he literally means molecules they cannot surely be constructed of mainly dissipative energy otherwise they would not be stable or hold any form. Does he use these terms to mean something other than there common usage or if not how do they relate?  An atom or a molecule could potentially demonstrate some of either set of properties in my mind...

Could someone who understands his terminology try and explain this to me in a more understandable way?

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