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Overunity Machines Forum



Smot - A New Approach

Started by billmehess, September 29, 2007, 11:56:08 PM

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ChileanOne

As many other people here already saw the idea, probably you have competition, Bill.  ;D

Anyway, another very important requisite for collecting the Overunity prize, is the open sourcing of the working apparatus: This means that it must be possible to be replicated by, at least, 1 person other than the claimant.

Good Luck Bill! I would really  like to be proven wrong about my disbelief in SMOT.

(PS: Just for the record, I am in no way a FE debunker, I believe OU is possible and has been supressed actively in the past and present. I just don't agree with the SMOT being OU).

hartiberlin

Quote from: ChileanOne on October 02, 2007, 10:07:25 AM
As many other people here already saw the idea, probably you have competition, Bill.  ;D

Anyway, another very important requisite for collecting the Overunity prize, is the open sourcing of the working apparatus: This means that it must be possible to be replicated by, at least, 1 person other than the claimant.



The device must at least generate 50 Watts contineously for getting the prize.
3 devices must be built which work  and must be shipped to testers.

The SMOT just produces only MilliWatts in such a setup...

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I just don't agree with the SMOT being OU).

Then you do not understand it yet...

Okay, I was already around, when Greg Watson
and Epitaxy did get it to loop, so I might have a better understanding of it...
Just study all the available videos again.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

ChileanOne

Thanks Stephan for providing the complete info on the prize. So, I see a Smot should use a bowling ball sized steel ball to produce such a power, I guess.  ;)

Anyway, also thanks for your honest input in the SMOT issue. I'll look up for more videos, specially the ones that don't rely on hands to position the ball wrt the mag field.

Anyway, building a SMOT with verifiable and undeniable OU is possible AFAIK, but the construction requires material science and time taken into account. You know, I'm from the Steorn's school of thought.




Honk

If the SMOT is OU then the magnetic Wankel is OU.
They are based on precisely the same principle but the Wankel uses an magnetic pulse instead of gravity to escape the sticky spot.

In this case the Wankel is a lot easier to build. There is not really any difficult narrow tollerances in a Wankel.
A 1mm gap at the smallest area is good enough in a wankel. And the traveling pendulum will not "jump off" the track.
The Wankel will also be a lot small than a SMOT due to the higher flux densities and simplicity of the design.

If Paul Sprains Wankel proves be OverUnity beyond any doubt I will build such a beautiful beast myself.
I guess I could finish it within a month or two by getting the stuff I'll need precision cut by laser (for free).
The magnets will either be custom made slanted magnets or standard sizes of the shelf.
It all depends on Sprains public demo and his report and what can be determined from those.
Magnet Power equals Clean Power

billmehess

I would really like to see evidence and or a video of Greg Watsons (or anybodies) closed loop smot. On the JLN site he claimes that on Aug. 2, 1997 he was able to close the loop and see run times of up to 5 minutes. he says also that his time to loop once was 1 min.
The JLN site show drawing of his closed loop system but again there is no videos to back this up.
Also in the video I have posted on youtube regarding the "almost' closed smot system I am using about 6' of tubing and it takes only 5 seconds fron the drop point to travel the loop and project up the smot to the top now within 1/2 of the drop point.
Gregs loop system would have to be 12 times longer (if it took 1 min.) or 72'. It would be moving at such a slow speed that friction alone would stop it. I guess all things are possible though but it would be nice to see some real verifable evidence.
Based on the cuurent requirement for the Over Unity price the smot would not be eligable. Thats the rules and thats okay.
Regarding Paul Sprains device the problem will be to be able to charge up his caps enough to trigger the electromagnet to puch it past the sticky point. The problem here is that he must do it in just revolution. This will be very very difficult!! I wish him the best though.