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TPU - General Discussion

Started by z_p_e, October 01, 2007, 11:32:43 PM

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hi to all
 

I HAVE TOLD  YOU  THAT    WHIT  ONE CIKC   WHIT DC   IS PRODUCES   1000  OR 10000  KICKI FOR ONE SECOND
  THAT CAN BE  MAKE  WHIT  BATERY OR  PERMANENT MAGNET 
<<< EXPLANATIONS   IF YOU BRING  CLOUSE  PERM. MAAG N   TO  MANY WIRES   THAN  IN THE WIRES  WHILL BE  PRODUCED DC  ONLY ONE SECOND >> BUT  I FIND I WAY HOW  TO MAKE OSCILATIONS  WHIT  ONLY ONE KICK  THE POINT OF THIS IS HOW TO MAKE  A COILS  NOW  I NOT TELL YOU  HOOW TO MAKE THIS  >>ONLY I TELL YOU THIS

TPU  HAVE THIIS ELEMENT  .... ONE COLECTOR COIL WHIT  SOME TURNS   ..AND CONTROL COIL HO HAVE MANY TURNS  .. THEN ONLY YOU NEED TO HOW TO MAKE  10000 KICKS  PER SECOND ONLY  PUSH WHIT ONE SECOND OF DC VOLTAGE THEN THIS INPUT VOLTAGE  YOU DONT NEED ENY MORE  OR  WHIT PERM MAGN.  ..
THIS SECRET  I HAVE FOUND  OF  READ SOME PATENT   TH S.M   IS START WHIT SIMPLE PER, MAG  TO PRODUCED  SMALL KICK  ONLY ONE SECOND   THEN  CONTROL COIL PRODUCED  10000  KICK  WHIT  HIS  SMALL ELEKTRMAGNET FILD    YOU IMAGEN  YOU HAVE  SMALL ELEK. MAG WHIT SPEED  THEN THE COLECTORS COIL BRINGTHE POWER 
NO ORE EXPLANATIONS  ENYY MOE  IF YOU DONT ANDERSTEND  HOW  YOU DONT  NOW  ELEKTRONIKS  ,,  AND ANTHER THE TPU IS NOT HAVE ELKTONICS COMPONENTS
NO TRANSISTOR OR SOMEYHING ELSE  ONLY COILS AND START BATERY  OR  PERM .MAGN  FOR STARTING THIS   BY  8) 8) 8)

wattsup

@all

I have been looking at the open TPU for several days straight, trying to make heads or tails of such a short video and of such bad quality. There are some things that I have seen and have put them here for your comments. I also made a diagram of the TPU so you can have a concrete look. If some of you are into it, please take some time to review the video and see if there are other things I did not notice.

Some deductive observations;

1) When putting magnets on the top of the two coils. If the base onto which the magnet was placed was metallic, it would have jumped to the spot when nearing the location. This did not happen so I am confident there was no metal under the magnet. I did a quick test with a coil and a magnet and one way the magnet would stick closer and reversing the polarity the magnet would fly off. So this means the coils under the magnets never change polarity, otherwise the magnets would have flown off their seats. Also, I think these magnets have a dual purpose.

A) Connect a reed switch inside the coil with possible batteries. If the coils had Lytz wire, some of the strands could be used to turn on the circuit. There could also be 1 or more batteries inside the coils. This is just a best guess and not based on any real observation save the fact that the magnets require some form of mechanism to turn on the TPU. Also if there were batteries, what better place then below the magnets, for quick access for battery replacements.

B) I think the coils are being pulsed on and off at 6000 or more cycles per second, sending its magnetic field over its left and right collectors, thus passing a magnet over a wire to produce current. It is that simple. The magnet on top of the coil is not only used to activate a reed switch but also to deflect the coil field so as to spread it out over the collectors. He said an inherent vibration, not a frequency. What is the best wire type to produce the widest field?

3) You can most certainly rule out any metallic rings since the weight of such metal rings, with the dimension and thickness as seen on the demo would have made it much much heavier and SM would not have been able to manipulate it by lifting, turning in one hand, etc., so effortlessly. You can see that his fingers are straight when he is holding it in one hand, something that would be impossible if the device had any substantial weight, since he would have held it in a full palm grip or had a few fingers inwards to counter the weight.

4) There are only three legs on the TPU. You will notice at 38:38 there is a circuit going downwards to the right of the metallic box. It is about 1.5" by 4" and is bracketed to the top output speaker terminal, the white wires are going there. The circuit is just a tad too long, but enough so that the TPU swings on the circuit board and one other leg when on the table. At 38:38 I can see what I think is a variable capacitor and other components. Neet. This enforces the fact that the rings are not made of metal since SM would have never put so much weight onto the circuit board.

wattsup

ronotte

@Wattsup,

what if the two coils under the magnets are needed to develop the first kicks? Remember the infamous:.....if you slide a magnet over a wire you get something, if you do it over 1000 wires you get 1000 x something....so I've in front of me 20 meters of Litz cable with  640 isolated strands....and if I'm so mad to cut  10 cm of that cable , splice the 640 +640 end single leads and take my time to put them for example half in series and half in parallel?....at the end I should have a 'consistent' pulse  after the magnet sliding action.
What do you think?

Roberto

BEP


wattsup

@BEP

Thanks for your comments. I don't know either and that's why I wanted to get the most info on the build out there, first.

Actually I think if z_p_e could use his post #1 to keep a build spec specific to this design, we could add to it as parameters get more precise.

Things to keep track of would be.

1) Concrete observations of the TPU
2) Less concrete but observable.
3) Explanations for item #1.
4) Theories for item #2.

I'd say within two weeks of brainstorming on this device, it should be clear enough to then make a specific build spec with minimal variables to test.

@Roberto

I think you will get a kick anyways just by pulsing on/off.

Now with a coil having Litz wire, lets say you wound all 20 metres as a coil. You would have 640 coils if you used them individually. Imagine. You can use 25% of them to pulse 3000 cycles, 25% to pulse another 3000 cycles but both could be inverse meaning when one is off, the other is on. This would create a constant pulse field with half less maximum amperage. The other 25% could be used to capture flyback, while the remain 25% could be split into three to pulse frequencies. All on the same wire. You could even have some strands going from internal batteries to power the circuit at start up.

"Wire is very important". Yes it is. He did not say wire, metals and frequencies.

I can't really say concretely as this is part of the discovery. But what I am trying to point to you guys is that you have to keep this real. If you have a theory of operation, fine, point to me physically where in the TPU you are talking about. If it does not fit the TPU physically, then forget it and find another theory.

As long as the theory can fit inside a TPU using what there is there, contrained to a circuit board of about 1.5" x 4", etc., etc. Then these would be considered valid. If you keep the physical TPU in mind at all times, this will be your guide to theorize in specifics. Keep it real.

Roberto, I understand you are saying this may start without any batteries. This is also a fine theory cause physically we cannot see the batteries. But I do know that when you look at the bottom of the Leg #2, the one that holds Coil and Magnet #2, the leg is hollow. Also the Leg #3 has tape wrapped around and under the leg. Even if the TPU was started by battery, let's say (2 x 1.5 volts computer type) 3 volts under each coil, that's 6 volts. This may be just enough to start the unit but never enough to keep it going so the TPU has already proven itself indeed. If you start with batteries, get the device to work, then you can worry about getting rid of the batteries afterwards.

But come to think of it, you can also presume with what is given on the table, that the two coils are not used to produce a magnetic field over the collectors, but that it is used to catch a magnetic field produced by the collectors. So you put your magnet on the coil, it produces a current that energizes the circuit so it then pulses the collectors. So by pulsing the collectors, you are sending the fields towards the coil, that energizes the circuit, that pulses the collectors, and so on in a loop. This would be a valid theory also. So this device may work without batteries if the coil is used as an inductor, like i am sure he is doing in the large TPU.

But if the coil is used only as a simple pulses field generator, where could the energy come from if not from a battery to start it?

So, tests would have to be made to see how much initial voltage may be produced by simply putting a magnet onto a litz coil (or inductor) and then designing the circuit to start with that voltage and having to work it upwards in a loop.