TPU - General Discussion

[wattsup]

@poynt99

OK, let's go for try number three.

Look at the right magnet and the thumb position from top, then from bottom.

Also the circuit board is a little longer then the two other legs. When he positions the right magnet, the OTPU pivots to the right and stops because perpendicular to the circuit board is a toroid that is about the same size as the FTPU toroid and this prevents the OTPU from actually toppling over on the right.

[poynt99]

as long as we're looking at dark grainy and obscure pictures, we'll never agree on what we see and don't see.

after the visual evidence has been exhausted, the gaps must be filled in with best-guesses, intuition, logic, and common sense. 

[wattsup]

@poynt99

If you want more, I could show you more but what's the point.
I respect your opinion and leave it at that.

@Guys

Since this is a thread for TPU discussions, I have prepared a post a few days ago and think this is a good thread for it. There are multiple things that have been overlooked (for a better word) when considering pulsing at frequencies. The main one that we have not really looked at was the size of coils themselves in relation to the actual applied frequencies and expected responses.

We make any odd size coil and just pulse and pulse at varying frequencies but at high frequency, there is rarely anything special to talk about. If using mosfets, as soon as you start lowering the pulse frequency, the SS components blow from the increased flyback, but when you increase the frequency again, there is not enough EM force to push the effect. Sort of a catch 22 situation.

When you take a large coil and pulse it at high frequency and you put your scope probe at the end of the coil, yes you will see on the scope the pulsing action but there is nothing special happening on the secondary side. Also the flyback of these little pulses is simply being lost in the great mass of the primary coil being used.

Tesla matched his primary to secondary coil relationships by balancing the actual weight of the coil wires. His coils were not made by happenstance. They were calculated to produce a balanced energy exchange system. Why have more primary then the secondary can handle. Also, why pulse a coil faster then it can handle the inductive/capacitive movements.

NATURE works when it is properly balanced. You can make any size coil you want and try all the frequencies possible and you will eventually get the proper resonance, but resonance by itself does not equate to power production. Everything has a resonance even badly matched coils will have a resonance. The properly matched coil will have its resonance also, but in addition it will provide the maximum coupling between the pulsed end and the working end. Need more power, just add more coils.

Maybe I am not getting the point across properly.

The way I see it more and more, the actual pulse is nothing in itself. It's the flyback that is important to not waste the used energy in the first place. The question of pulse timing is important in that you need to apply a pulse with long enough time for the pulse to expand, then turn off the pulse long enough for the flyback to return to source, then start over again. To do this, it is not only a question of finding the right frequency, but duty and amplitude all play into the overall effect.

But let's take this one step further which is the main reason I am posting this, because I am realizing the relationship between the physical size of coil and the frequencies are not properly matched.

So what if the pulse was sent, instead of in one large coil, you make many small coils. The higher frequency pulse will have more effect on the coupling action of the smaller primary/secondary pair so then you simply parallel the outputs. The higher the frequency at a given amplitude, the smaller the coil. If you then increase the amplitude or lower the frequency, just increase the size of the coil to match.

So what if you had one primary that was wound over 20 secondaries. Now send high voltage spikes into the primary like in the Tesla Ozone Patent. What will the output be. Lower voltage but higher amperage then if the secondary was wound the same amount of turns but in one length.

But using higher frequencies maybe with the single wound primary over 20 secondaries, the high frequency would lose it's minuscule punch. So let's take 20 primaries of 2 turns over 20 secondaries of the number of turns required to match the primary weight. The short primary would be just enough to react to higher frequency pulsing and the secondaries would have just enough mass to capture the transfer. Now just parallel the secondary outputs. Doing this will increase the amperage that we are all looking for. Also, such a method could receive either pulsing DC or even high voltage discharges which are near 0 amps and transform it into a usable amperage level.

This type of configuration having continuous multiple primary/secondary windings could be wound in a circular tpu fashion. Cut any section and a quick 4 wire re-wiring would get it running again. Also this would agree with what @JD said once, about the TPU not having to be in a circular pattern. And curiously, if you set this up in a circular pattern with primaries in parallel and secondaries in parallel, all you would require is four RINGS, two to provide input to the primaries and two to collect from the secondaries. Also, this could be wound in miniature like the FTPU center toroid or it could be wound like the LTPU outer ring. 

I made a pretty crude drawing of what I mean and I am sure others can do much better drawing of this. But, the basic idea is to stop just winding any which way. Start thinking that the higher the frequency, the smaller the coil. If you look up "monolithic transformers", these are extremely micron small and work in the giga range. Have you ever seen a 1 pound coil running in the giga or even mega range. What we need to do is wind the coils for the frequencies we want to use, and not just wind coils and then try any frequency to see if there is an effect. This is proving to be counter productive and I feel it is wasting alot of our time.

Hey, hey, I will build one. Now where is my wire gauge/weight chart?

[innovation_station]

verry awsome wattsup

i would build one but i cant seam to gat a mosfet to work  yet  errrrrrr  i have 840 but i cant get the darn things to work

what a pain lol


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@ whattsup  do you find that when BOTH - + ARE PLSUED AT THE SAME TIME  to your primary the EFFECT  is enhanced?  opsoded to pulseing pos only or neg only?


also regarding your dwg what would one use as a core im REALLY thinking of building this right NOW!!!! 

like droping all the crap im working on at the moment wich is lots as usual....  iron wire ??  air core?? plastic??

actually now that i think of it i have a perfect lil ferroite torroide should work awsome  i will post a pic when i finish it

[innovation_station]

well i wound a tunned tranny on it ...  22 ga .9ga and 28ga .9ga  but i was also thinking about a coil top and bottom ...  the sum of all primaries and the sum of all secondaries  in other words tuned ...  both ways...as in whatsup dwg and parell tranny style tuned i may have to try it

here is a pic of my feroitte toroide with tuned coils on it ...  also here is a dwg of what i may build next to improve the output ...

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the last pic i added is my tuned coil in the works 4 primaries 4 secondaries and 1 sum primary and 1 sum seccondary

im gonna wind it up ....

i will post the pic when i finish..