Bedini Motor/generator questions

[idnick]

I've often wondered about the little 9 V battery in a multimeter being used in some hidden way, because a multimeter always seems to be one of the tools on the table 

Dave

[ruin41]

Ok i see some interesting questions and theories here but again you seem to all have neglected the facts.

Lets start with the myth ...take a 9 volt battery that we all know from our youth as being high on price and short on life ... anything that used one of these didn't run for long ... build a motor of reasonable size ... which has nothing to do with its draw requirement but clearly is 20 times the size of anything found in the short life electric toys we all know so well and display it to the world.

Extend the myth with a slight variation of the truth and confuse the people further.

So we have a motor 20 times the size, that ran for a week on a battery known to only run a smaller motor for an hour ... how can this possibly be ??

Well guess what is so easy its not funny ... first the old motor that only ran for an hour was actually doing something ...like driving a car while this one does nothing ... no load for those of you who don't see the importance of this.

Now lets examine the "facts" a week is 7 days 24 hours a day ... thats 168 hours.

Now I'm running on memory here so you can go check these facts for yourselves so please excuse me if I'm not 100% correct but these are the facts as i remember them.

The school science fair was on for a week ...but thats a school week 5 days not 7 ...opps we are down to 120 hours, but wait theres more ... a school day may be 8 hours ( thats 40 hours), but the fair was only open 6 hours a day so in fact the week it ran for was only 30 hours.

If memory serves me correctly the published draw of the motor was a mere 14 milliwatts so it used a total of 84 milliwatts of power per day, could there possibly be that much power in a 9 volt battery ??

Well yes as it turns out, i popped out to my local supermarket and looked at the 9 volt batteries and wouldn't you believe it the cheapest one was 595 millivolts and the dearest was 950 millivolts.

Bloody hell i thought i would never have believed that unless i saw it with my own 2 eyes .... and then the maths .... 5 days times 6 hours equals 30 total hours times 14 milliwatts equals 420 milliwatts total consumption for the entire event and the cheapest battery could have carried on running it for another 4.2 hours without dropping past its rated usable power .... which we all know would still leave more in the battery.

Now add to this the documented spiking that is emitted from these motors and this motor should have been able to run for a couple of weeks but the reality here is that it did not even run to the expected run time for the battery used and it only looks good because what you believe and know to be true is masking the reality of this scenario and if you cant see that after confirming what i have said above then good luck in pursuing this pipe dream.

[gandalf]

ruin41,

you also chose to neglect the facts. If you read the article correctly, you would have read that the same 9V battery lasted for a month or so and that the battery had only been replaced 3 times in 6 months.

Do the math on that.

Here's the link to the article: http://www.icehouse.net/john34/bedinibearden.html

John

[Ren]

@ ruin. This motor was built by a little school, with the help of Bedini, but never the less a very simplified version. I dont see why you are so skeptical of its performance.

Go watch energy from the vacuum part 2 and start explaining the things you see there. Or perhaps you have some of your own research where you have BUILT AND TESTED your own replication? I dont see why people bother to be skeptical about something they have not personally tested or verified. Maybe I'm wrong and you have a warehouse of monopoles that you have built and tested to no avail.... if so please share your findings.

@ gonzo. I believe the motor is different to a conventional motor because it is an open path design. There are alot of theories and confusion surrounding them, I believe the best way to learn about them is to build one as close to spec and then complete load tests and document all relavant data. There are a couple of forum groups that do this collectively that are worth joining/checking out.