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Teslas electric car

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wings


Transmitting tube hot cathode characteristics
Material    
Quote from: pese on April 22, 2011, 04:47:22 PM
Oscillation is an wrong explaining. possibly the "radiant" electrone lawines that is delivered from the cathode- emitted from BARIUM = radiant materials"  produce "energy" with the resonating frequecies of barium material.
(nothih to do with vhf/uhf frequencies that can produced with
PC86, or microwaves (Klystrons), SM have found (amother way) and possibly not understand. Possibly it comes "nearby" to Tesla "unknow" invention
Pese
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www.alt-nrg.de/pppp   
some german and engl.
alternatibe links, collected over years..
Operating temperature    Emission efficacy    Specific emission
Tungsten                    2500 K                          5 mA/                       500 mA/cm2
Thoriated tungsten    2000 K                            100 mA/W              5 A/cm2
Oxide coated            1100 K                            500 mA/W              10 A/cm2
Barium aluminate     1300 K                            400 mA/W              4 A/cm2

it seem that thoriated or oxide coated filament have better efficiency

Tesla's "1930 Pierce Arrow" Electric Automoblie at this time ....
http://www.r-type.org/exhib/aaj0163.htm
The DET1, designed around 1924, was the first dull emitter, thoriated tungsten filament transmitting valve, certainly in the UK, possibly in the world. It was a conventional triode with flat nickel anode, ribbed for strength and capable of dissipating a power of 35 watts at anything up to 1,000 volts. The cathode operated at 6 Volt, 1.9 Amp.

pese

So, (i am not specialized)

but some guys have tired some Kilowatts from small amount of radium, thorium, and other materials
so barium tunszen (wolfram) have also more
energy, IF "we can "pic up" them in an usual way.
(also we must see: meyer hendershot morey to understand
possibly also Tesla)

Pese

P.S.
it have nothing to do with usual transmittimg tubes, nire this know technic,  - The last, i know.
But not, what Tesla (and some european Inventors!) have done.
/All -unwillcome- surpressed informations/
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wings

Quote from: wings on April 22, 2011, 10:49:40 AM
you refer to this:

*********************************************************** SM's  words ***************
I have made a great study of Vacuum tube power supplies as I have told you. It is all very interesting. Please remind me to tell you why Nicola Tesla used Vacuum tubes in his most powerful demonstrations of his power conversion technologies.
Anyway, I have taken a high voltage power supply as follows:
500 v-0-500 v  300 mV plate transformer run it through a full wave silicon circuit then run it through a 5U4 electron tube rectifier. Now you know that the 5U4 requires 5 volts AC at 3 amps for its heater to gather the electrons and complete the circuit. Well, I measured the output from the tube and the result is 500 volts DC at 250 mV. The loss is due to the high impedance of the tube and its limited ability to dissipate more than 250 mA.. The point I wish to make here is that also along with the 500 volt DC is, yes, you guessed it, the 5 volts three amp AC current! They are both completely independent of each other except for some very interesting things I will mention to you some other time..
First of all, obviously you can have several different output components in the power output signal. You can have DC and AC together without any problem. Why did that mystery person claim that it was a foolish to say DC output with a 5k Hz component? Because he was deliberately trying to mislead anyone who might want to figure out what I was doing.
*******************************************************************************************
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7046.msg174142#msg174142
SM's words:

"Now the high voltage power goes through the cathode and travels through the coils of the 5 volt transformer along with the 5 volt AC.
If the plate voltage is not rectified then it is AC with a potential 60 Hz frequency.
That combines with the 5 volt 60 Hz in the coil of the htr transformer and generally amounts to nothing. In fact the power of the 5 volt transformer amounts to nothing.
It is an insignificant power supply except when the two transformers get slightly out of phase with each other, or when they are connected in reverse of one another.
Then you can measure all kinds of things going on.
You can generate all kinds of hash and multiple frequencies, and I do mean all kinds.
What I measured during this process was very interesting.
All these frequencies occasionally met at the same time with a much larger kick at the output.

nightlife

Hans had posted this a few years back on another thread.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3691.0

Tate Power from the air

    Tate Ambient Power Module. Joseph Tate Last Known Address 760 Waldo Point Sausalito Ca (4965) 415 331 8150 332 9918 U.S. Patent 4,628,299



    This design converts radio frequency energy to power that can be usefully applied in power devices such as clocks,radios and smoke detectors.

    This design makes use of a doubler, splitter and rectifier.

    The device has been known to give 36 volt/9 watts.

    This devices does away for the need for batteries by extracting energy from natural and man made radio waves.

    THe device uses a coil made of the following design 479 turns of #22 wire on a 3" plastic tube, the coil should be loosely wound as a close wound coil tends to reduce power collection. One end should be connected to unit at antenna connection point and the other to an antenna of your choice .

    Other coil types could be used in your experiments such as sliding induction coils that is inside one another and find the best position by moving them in different positions.

    Other coil types can be found by referencing any good book on radio fundamentals. Check out the Telsa type coils as well.

    Power could be also enhanced by placing a tin foil pyramid under the coil as this seems to also improve power.

    The power produced also seems to improve near bridges,ships and any thing containing a great deal of metal.

    A high antenna wire seems to improve the running of unit although a 7 foot whip antenna worked reasonably well too.


pese

Quote from: wings on April 22, 2011, 05:49:25 PM
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7046.msg174142#msg174142
SM's words:

"Now the high voltage power goes through the cathode and travels through the coils of the 5 volt transformer along with the 5 volt AC.
If the plate voltage is not rectified then it is AC with a potential 60 Hz frequency.
That combines with the 5 volt 60 Hz in the coil of the htr transformer and generally amounts to nothing. In fact the power of the 5 volt transformer amounts to nothing.
It is an insignificant power supply except when the two transformers get slightly out of phase with each other, or when they are connected in reverse of one another.
Then you can measure all kinds of things going on.
You can generate all kinds of hash and multiple frequencies, and I do mean all kinds.
What I measured during this process was very interesting.
All these frequencies occasionally met at the same time with a much larger kick at the output.



Yes , this come more "nearby" that was i read , years ago.  Not in overunity.

BUT it MUST be the following experiments,
because  he "find interessantly things" ,
so his words (your found text)

Pese

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