Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

[hoptoad]

ok ... so if all the lights are in a black container and that container is immersed in water and all the energy is converted to heat energy (i assume most is) then what other energy is there that i am not measuring ?

@Dean
It would be generous of you, if you could construct to the best of your ability, any one of the circuits posted here, perfect it to whatever degree of efficiency you can, and prove the circuit's and LED's actual efficiencies by using the method you have suggested or any other you care to choose, then post your results here where we can all freely analyze the figures and methods used to furbish them.

As a Skeptic, I do not "believe" in O/U, but, as with alI O/U and Non-O/U claims, I will approach whatever data and results you have to offer with an "open" mind. I'm here to learn and share new and old ideas in a new context, not pre-judge them.

I await in anticipation of any facts and figures from hands on experimentation, that you may have to offer.

From the Toad who Hops!

[dean_mcgowan]

ok ... so if all the lights are in a black container and that container is immersed in water and all the energy is converted to heat energy (i assume most is) then what other energy is there that i am not measuring ?

@Dean
It would be generous of you, if you could construct to the best of your ability, any one of the circuits posted here, perfect it to whatever degree of efficiency you can, and prove the circuit's and LED's actual efficiencies by using the method you have suggested or any other you care to choose, then post your results here where we can all freely analyze the figures and methods used to furbish them.

As a Skeptic, I do not "believe" in O/U, but, as with alI O/U and Non-O/U claims, I will approach whatever data and results you have to offer with an "open" mind. I'm here to learn and share new and old ideas in a new context, not pre-judge them.

I await in anticipation of any facts and figures from hands on experimentation, that you may have to offer.

From the Toad who Hops!

I was holding out for the plans to the non powered , no frequency generator version.  Just try and stop me making one of those suckers

[xee]

Maybe LEDs do create their own power. Then again, maybe Ohm's Law does not apply to LEDs with constant current sources. These are real measurements. I offer no explanations.

EDIT: diagram updated 3 DEC.

[dean_mcgowan]

ok ... so if all the lights are in a black container and that container is immersed in water and all the energy is converted to heat energy (i assume most is) then what other energy is there that i am not measuring ?

@Dean
It would be generous of you, if you could construct to the best of your ability, any one of the circuits posted here, perfect it to whatever degree of efficiency you can, and prove the circuit's and LED's actual efficiencies by using the method you have suggested or any other you care to choose, then post your results here where we can all freely analyze the figures and methods used to furbish them.

As a Skeptic, I do not "believe" in O/U, but, as with alI O/U and Non-O/U claims, I will approach whatever data and results you have to offer with an "open" mind. I'm here to learn and share new and old ideas in a new context, not pre-judge them.

I await in anticipation of any facts and figures from hands on experimentation, that you may have to offer.

From the Toad who Hops!

Hey Hoppy,

It was implied that there is some other mysterious energy that would not dissipate as heat from the proposed experiment. I am not averse to giving it a try, though there is hardly any compelling reason so far to suggest that there would be more energy out than in.. or is there ?

Do you think you could convince a fellow sceptic with the evidence at hand to invest in doing the experiment, given that you have only used what was available to you in your replication effort and not that which was specified?

If you would like, and I am assuming you would, shall we invest in the proper parts and do this replication and calometric testing .. just to put this baby to rest once and for all ?

50/50 ?

Cheers,

The one walks his talk

[hartiberlin]

I was holding out for the plans to the non powered , no frequency generator version.  Just try and stop me making one of those suckers

Dean, Please then stop posting until then.

You do not add any useful information here.
Thanks.