Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

[DrStiffler]

@ALL

Gentlemen!

Try not to get all worked up again. Here are some thing that will help your confusion.

Power In: It is damn hard to measure (period). On my SEC devices you can filter th hell out of the input and still see artifacts >50MHz. I have been working with RF for 40+ years and never have had a problem similar to making these simple circuits quiet. That is the thing that is most interesting and (maybe) why no one has seen this effect before. Bad, noisy circuit, filter, bypass or throw it away. Conventional EE does not want noise, spikes, jitter, bleed, whatever you want to call it. EE wants stable calm circuits that can show no noise or artifacts on the  power rails.

Yes you can quiet these circuits, but that is not the point in measuring input. The lab that (I think) will test this circuit uses a major piece of equipment that has a band width of 20-30khz for True Power. Guess what, SEC will never show OU this way. You need a very expensive digital integrating oscope, something with a sample rate >10MHz, then and only then will the facts appear.

I do not want to make anyone mad or say they are wrong, but someone please show me one of my circuits (working) with a clean set of wires feeding back to the power supply??? Please, I am willing to learn even this far into the game.

Now for output. I have to admit it has to be Heat and this is far from easy or simple, even though the concept is simple. Building a device that gives correct results is damn hard.

You lock away your circuit in a container, hoping the tuning does not change, calibrate the whole instrument with a resistor and DC known current and voltage, determine the 'Offset' for the device, let it site for many 10's of hours to again reach equilibrium, power up your circuit and hope for the best. No adjustment when its in the box, just cross your fingers.

In my lab the device that (hopefully) will be lab tested showed an OU of 2.158 after an 8 hour run. This may sound great, but in the first hour of testing showed an OU of 2.663, it should not have gone down, it must go up or stabilize. So I have fingers, arms and everything crossed. My lab cell (crude) but following all requirements for calorimetry may be in some way hosed and I do not know it. Yet power out in a SEC, because of the high impedance on the output is best left to a calorimeter.

I think I am okay, but maybe the next few weeks will really tell. I do not think I have that much wiggle room.

My device is shown below, 1.5' foam around circuit and water container, cotton batting and two layers of bubble wrap.

Get yourself some large caps (maybe some super caps).  Charge them up then let them run the circuit and take note of the voltage drop within a measured period of time.  Then do an RC time calculation.  That should give you an idea of how much energy is being drawn.  If done right, it could yield some reasonably accurate readings.  It would be somewhat the equivalent of a dual slope AD converter.  You apply a known load to the cap for a certain time, measure it, and get an error reading.  Then charge it up again and measure the load with the charged cap discharges rate and apply your error reading to your math.  You can use digital timers.  A PIC micro would do this nicely for you.  You would have a very accurate instrument that, as far as I can see, would not lie if you did it right.  The error value would compensate for any resistance in your relays or FET switching circuits.  Also, the switching doesn't have to be fast.  Maybe 20 times per second or even less on larger caps.




This is just off the top of my head.

!!No disrespect meant here, but to run this circuit for in excess of 20-40 hours for the calorimeter seems to mean I would need something like 1,067F of capacity?

[nat1971a]

RE: - Food for thought, strictly Hypothetical.....

Many years back Dr. Harold Aspden published a paper on obtaining energy with cylindrical capacitors, resonant circuit and a high voltage for initial excitation; a starting point with the current idea is http://www.aspden.org.uk/3.html

Take a look at both his very first circuit (without the multiple ring capacitor) and the current circuit, it takes little in imagination to wonder what would happen if one were to drive such a circuit with an AV Plug. Better yet forget AC as in SEC and drive it with DC into an impedance followed by a AV Plug set of diodes and the capture circuit.

Am I the only one that sees something similar?

Time to pull out the hundreds of dollars of copper cylinders and take a quick look, maybe.

Anyone wish to comment that may have followed this???
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Hi All,

Just so happens i was flicking through "The living Energies by callum coats" last week and on page 248 & 249 there is a few diagrams of  "the tree as a bio-condenser with a series of concentric, cylindrical, charge carrying plates separated by cylindrical dielectrics"....well worth having a look at as nature is telling us that capacitors/condensers should be in the shape of concentric cylinders.

Regards,

Nat.

[nat1971a]

Should have also mentioned that they stuck a probe into a tree (and the other probe at the outer surface) and detected relatively large voltages p247

[Loki67671]

Just another quick update on my progress:
I have most of the Circuit components now. Will measure and adjust if necessary tomorrow. A quick pic of the BB and layout comming together............................Just a couple more components to round up and I'll be tuning for maximum smoke.....I mean maximum out over in...............Jim 

[DrStiffler]

Just another quick update on my progress:
I have most of the Circuit components now. Will measure and adjust if necessary tomorrow. A quick pic of the BB and layout comming together............................Just a couple more components to round up and I'll be tuning for maximum smoke.....I mean maximum out over in...............Jim 

Looking at your picture I have a question for you, have you measured the two coils in the front most part of the image (measured for L). If the coil on the left (long with slug) is to be used in your base circuit, it appears to me to be way to much inductance, as with the air core on to the right and front of it.

Go back a few pages and I showed a diagram of the best 'Exciter'  and list the values.

If your L's are to high or two low and you will for sure suffer frustration.

If you have done all that, ignore me and proceed on the march.