Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

[alan]

playing, aka Alchemy 

[Hoppy]

Before you boys get too excited,  do you know how many electrons pass by in a current of 6mA, per second? 

As I see it,  people are skirting around calculating the output energy.   Just do it, or are you afraid the dream might come crashing down?   I know I am at times, so let's be real, calculate the output power and see if you have overunity, else we're just playing with oscillators and RF.

Motors spinning, LED lighting, neons burning, hydrogen bubbling is NOT a measure of OUTPUT ENERGY.  !!!

EM

EM raises a good point here.

I have done a simple test using a motor of similar physical size to Dr. Stiffler's. The motor is from a stripped down miniature tape recorder of some description that I have had in my 'junk' box for a few years. It is labelled as a Mabuchi RF300C-11440 with a DC rating of 5.9V. It is 23mm in diameter with a body height of 12mm excluding the shaft which has a diameter of 2mm.

This motor can turn a small plastic strip prop similar to the first one used by Dr Stiffler powered from a DC bench supply at 2.2V. The motor draws 10.6mA giving a power consumption of just 0.023W!

Try this yourself with any similar spec high efficiency DC motor and be surprised at how little energy is really needed to turn that prop. Please do not ask to run a video of this simple test, just do it for yourself to see how little energy is needed to perform this feat.

Hoppy

@Hoppy
Apples and Oranges, compare to what we have used, all we need is 100 different motors to make this whole direction useless again.

So have you about got a protocol setup with a SEC exciter or are we just adding smoke here!

@ R. Stiffler

I'm simply pointing out that a small motor needs very little current to turn a rotor such as you show in your demo. I'm not trying to devalue your work just emphasising the point that EM has made about the importance of measuring input and output energy. This direction with motors used as a load is not useless as long as you believe that it is saying something significant and can convince others that this is the case.

And yes I have built your SEC. As you know, the concept of 'one wire transmission' is not new and I have achieved results using frequencies from around 18KHz and above using various LC oscillator designs.

Keep up the good work.

Clive

[ramset]

DR STIFFLER I like what you  have done with the place seems roomier    Chet

[DrStiffler]

I just finished finding all the parts and prices for a standard SEC Exciter, the one I am using in all the current work, including the HHO unit.

Now the parts in 100 volume cost out to about $3.10 per exciter, the circuit board is $3.00, so if I order 100 boards and parts, what is a fair price to make these available (built and tuned into a Neon (for excess heat). The neon could be unsoldered and the exciter used for other projects.

I do not want to resell parts because it still may not work if the layout is wrong.

Would this help or not and will I get stuck with 99 of them??

[DrStiffler]

@ALL
Because the current HHO project is in reality SEC, it will for the most part be handled here in the SEC thread. BUT I will not allow it to be taken over by the brute force segment, this is not the same as brute force and you can not think both ways, because it works altogether different.

I currently am waiting on SS wire and have a dual duct system ready to test. I feel it is best to get this way as the single duct is much more of a hazard.

As a result of this decision the Google Group is gone, it will be here and linked to the SS site for photos.

Thanks to Stephan I now have control and will delete anything ( I ) deem not in the interest and direction of the thread.......

We are moving forward.