Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

[fritz]

@Pirate88179

I forgot to say this in my last answer to you.

I'm not having problems per say with the calorimetry, the problem if we would call it that is that the circuit has shown factors of <1 to >5 and it does decline as time moves on. The problem is that once its inside the chamber, one is not able to see if adjustment will correct the condition. If it were not that it would be a great bit of engineering I would like to have some kind of auto tuning control and a video camera in there, hell maybe (  ) the transistor is frosting up  . Although the chamber is not only insulated it is constructed to also be a Faraday Cage, there is so much RF inside that it was a real trick to get the active temp sensors to work properly in the chamber. Not to mention you don't want to run a bundle of wires from the circuit outside for measurement, anything hung on a SEC Exciter causes real problems and does not provide real time operational information.

I think a logical step could be to isolate exciter and load part -> means
just measure the energy from the av plug and try to keep all "outdoor" exciter stuff cool -
The only way to keep the exciter cool would be to reduce the losses of the 22uH coil to minimum
by using different coil with higherQ - using wire with bigger diameter/different core!?
this could even mean to use different transistor(...)

Anyway - difficult task - I think that the heating up of the 22uH coil should
be avoided - from entire system point of view - its just!? matching the load to the exciter -
and from efficiency point of view - its on the minus side.

I think that the transistor plays somehow the role of a "starter" or "maintainer" of
something - thats why it doesnt warm up. Maybe its just "pumping up" the system
until a power path is established between the av plug and the coils.
(sounds quite similar to bedini things hehe ?)

If you ignore the av plug - and just simulate the exciter - the MPSA06 should
have a power dissipation of about 540mW (according to my spice model) -
which would result in warming up to 60K above room temperature and even more.

Keep in mind that diodes are "active" components - even if they have no
base nor gate.

rgds.

[DrStiffler]

@All the next HHO test requires a little extra work. I found the Nylon coating on the (7) strand SS wire was not that good, a number of microscopic leaks that evolve gas. To correct this the cable was pulled through a Teflon sleeve and epoxy was used to insure no water backed up into the sleeve, (the end was sealed). The strands were spread out and a small drop of epoxy was placed in the center of the display so the wires shaping would be held in place.

The following two pictures show the electrode alone and then the electrode in comparison with a US Dime. Both photos were taken through a 3X magnifier lens.

This is the first step, prep the electrode. More to come.

[Feynman]

Dr. Stiffler:

I think your idea regarding investigating possible cooling is a good one...  I noticed that on the graphs where you have this initial bump followed by what almost looks like equalization as time goes on.  To me, I could see that as either as some sort of "thermal equilibrium" with one or more components, or possibly as an "RF/oscillation equilibrium" as mentioned before...   

just my 2c

The new electrode looks great by the way.

[Loki67671]

@All,
And a damned fine heatsink it is!  Curse'd cold pit, until mid June, when it's 90+ outside. The move upstairs was a wise one! Heat working now! When I had to split for work this morning it was 102.5F and rising on the neon. With current just sliding off to 34ma or 35ma with input voltage of 22.25 VDC. I do believe thats running on the edge of the transistor but Hell I bought 100 of them! Man I'm going back there soon! Will update after I fire this thing up!

Best regards,

Jim

[Pirate88179]

@ Dr. Stiffler:

Yes, I see it is more complex than I was making it out to be.  The only other thing I can think of would be to build two temperature measuring enclosures and somehow have the transistor in the "cold" one and the rest of the circuit in the "hot" one.  Maybe (probably) not possible.  This is just so fascinating to me.  But, you are working on cutting edge stuff so, I guess it is normal to have to blaze your own way through it.

Thanks

Bill