Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

[Loki67671]

Ladies and Gentlemen,
What do you think I'm going to try with this contraption?  I'm designing and laying out the stator now. I hope to have windings completed and installed by the weekend. When I made motor runs, this motor in fact, it was buzzing full tilt with definite torque, moving a really decent amount of air. I just can't help myself!  I'm an old Army generator wrench!  I've been making juice for many years so I figure I'll give this a whirl while I'm waiting on my parts order. I got a big bunch of new neon's, more chokes, and 100 more 4148's. Enjoy and I will update as the project progresses.

Best regards,

Jim

[DrStiffler]

Your setup is very interesting RStiffler.  It resembles almost exactly what Tesla was doing in Colorado springs except you are using MHz instead of kHz.  An oscillator is used to drive a coil into resonance.  The difference is you place diodes at the top terminal - which seem to convert the reactive AC to DC.  Your coils would probably work better if you designed them to have higher Q.  In a graph on your website, you show the energy increase as you approach ~12MHz.  I'm not sure how much wire your using in your secondary, but I would imagine it is close to 18 feet - since this makes a quarter wavelength with 12MHz and would give the maximum potential at the top terminal where you place diodes. 

It would work even better if you made your primary and secondary a regular transformer and placed a high Q "extra coil" outside of the inductive coupling of the secondary - attached to the secondary of course.  You should be impressing standing waves along your secondary.  Properly tuned only reactive power would be generated, with very little real power.  The dependence on capacity is exactly as Tesla showed it as well.

I'll have to think about why converting reactive AC to DC would "extract ether" energy.  I would think pulling any energy from the coil oscillation would dampen the resonance.  In Tesla's system it did, but then again he didn't have diodes. 

Stop removing my posts,

Thanks,
Charlie

Your posts will be kept if appropriate for this thread and are not composed of rants and raves.

[Feynman]

Charlie, you sound like you have some stuff to contribute, but you really should replicate the circuits !   

[DrStiffler]

@All

Thought you might like to see what you can do with the basic SEC driver board if you fully populate it.

[Charlie_V]

I'm in the process of building a Tesla Magnifier of a smaller size than what Tesla used in Colorado Springs (my primary has a 5 foot diameter).  My goal is to transmit energy from the oscillator to a receiver coil using a single wire connection.  My next goal will be to replace the single wire connection with the ground and repeat the experiment.  My Tesla Magnifier works very similar to the circuit Stiffler has laid out here, except I'm using a thyratron to switch a 30kV DC power supply, oscillating my primary tank circuit at 500kHz.  I'm not sure what Stiffler is calling his secondary coil (the top loaded diode coil), but that coil should be of the utmost importance!

Pre-1899, Tesla made his magnifiers like the classic text-book Tesla coil, a primary loosely coupled to a secondary.  During the Colorado Springs experiments, he discovered that its better to have 2 coils in the secondary.  The first coil, designated "the secondary", does not resonate and inductively couples to the primary (by "does not resonate" I mean it's geometry is not wavelength dependent - it makes a standard turns ratio transformer).  Its soul purpose is to collect as much energy as possible from the primary circuit.  The second coil, designated "the extra coil", is the one tuned to 1/4 wavelength and specially coiled to have a very low internal capacity - making it act closer to an ideal inductor.  The magnifying factor, as Tesla called it, for these coils was given by

                                                                  Magnifying Factor = 2Ïâ,¬*f*L/R

where f is the frequency (in Hertz), L is the inductance (in Henry), and R is the coil's wire resistance (in Ohms).  The coil I'm currently building should be around 18,000.  Its a fairly large coil though, 1 foot in diameter and 3 feet tall. 

On page 357 of the Colorado Spring Notes, Tesla does exactly what Stiffler is doing.  Only Tesla used an incandescent light bulb instead of a LED - for obvious reasons haha!   So far, the only difference I see between the two setups are the diodes.  What is interesting about this is, as you can see in the formula above, R is bad.  If you add a resistive load, aka have a coil of thin wire or place a resistive load on the line, it will reduce the magnifying factor.  Tesla found this value doesn't necessarily need to be large, as long as its big enough to secure proper voltage on the top terminal - in one instance the value was as low as 100 and it still worked. 

Now a diode might be different.  I'm not sure what the equivalent resistance of a diode is, but I know they drop atleast 0.7 volts to operate.  0.7 volts is small compared to what you can put on the top terminal of that coil!  Whats even better, some diodes can possess a negative resistance regime.  So at the very least, top loading your magnifying coil with diodes shouldn't really hurt your magnifying factor - I don't think anyway.  And if you can excite the nonlinearity of the diode, you might be able to "suck" energy from the surroundings? 

Stiffler, your coils appear to have a low magnifying factor.  I wonder what would happen if you increased it?  Perhaps move them away from the inductive coupling of the primary - maybe weave the coils on a frame to reduce self capacitance and get rid of the core.  Another thing, I believe this phenomenon should work at any frequency, only the size of the device will get larger as the frequency decreases. 

Something I read earlier confused me.  Stiffler told some guy that you have to have a Thomas oscillator or something like that.  Wouldn't this work with any oscillator, as long as the primary and secondary circuits are tuned to the same frequency and have mismatching impedances (aka tuned to excite only reactive power)?

When my Magnifier is finished, I will try some of these experiments.  My power supply is 30kV DC but its variable, I can drop it to 5 volts if need be.  So I'll be able to experiment and see if I can get similar results at 500kHz.  Unfortunately, I might have to use vacuum tubes or something a tad more grand since I don't think diodes will work at the voltages my oscillator will ring at. 

So in response to Feynman, yes I will be building a variation of the circuits presented hear - only larger and less high tech. 

I'll keep you posted,
Charlie