Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

[allcanadian]

@All
I do not imagine any of the SEC operation makes much sense to most people because we are always looking for the "current" flow and we equate this with work being done. What we should be looking for is the capacitor, if everything is made up of opposite charges then the space beween these charges could be considered a dielectric,that is electrostatic thus capacitive in nature on the fundamental level. This would make a potential difference nothing more than additional tension between charges and an electric current tension moving from one dielectric space to the next as applied force in any media often does. If we should consider Dr.Stifflers circuit in this light, as capacitive in nature---capacitors being conservitive in most every sense, then it makes things much easier to understand.

@RStiffler
I was browsing your site---again , I mean no offence or to imply anything but regarding your CRE circuit, I have read Dr.Rhodes work and if I remember correctly I thought he had mentioned adding a capacitor in the exact fashion you have in your circuit. It makes perfect sense to add a capacitor of course and I enjoyed the explanation you gave for doing such a thing ie.. the bucket brigade. In regards to using an electron twice as you stated, In the case of using a capacitor with the source this may be the case but that is only one half of the equation, when you add an inductance to the circuit utilized in the correct manner another recycling loop is created. The problem I believe was never charging an inductor but utilizing the inductive discharge to its greatest advantage. In any case, keep up the good work---I am still waiting like everyone else I imagine for the grand finale.

[alan]

Hey Fausto, nice work.
I'd say, the EM waves are pushing and pulling the electrons back and forth in the wireless circuit.
Can you make a scopeshot of the wireless circuit? Is the waveshape the same as the primary circuit?

[DrStiffler]

Hi Doc,
I purchased one full board via PayPal.
Many thanks for making these available,
so we all could compare results.

Regards, Stefan.

@Stefan

Thank you for the order, spending time on trying to insure we have enough of everything, I did not expect most orders to be for the complete unit as for 100 boards that is 900 LEDs, guess what out of a 1K order you can select and get maybe 600-700 ones you really want to use. So the Hong Kong people are real happy about now.

@All
There will be information with the orders that point to (.pdf) files that explain the boards and how many different ways they can be used. I have received requests that I offer a parts bag that can go with the basic exciter, this way all of the different test can be done as the board is built in stages. It is not a good idea to remove parts from a full board, the foil is real small and through hole plated. Can be done, but not advised. Anyway there will be a lot of information that you will have access to when you get your boards.

[Loki67671]

@All
I do not imagine any of the SEC operation makes much sense to most people because we are always looking for the "current" flow and we equate this with work being done. What we should be looking for is the capacitor, if everything is made up of opposite charges then the space beween these charges could be considered a dielectric,that is electrostatic thus capacitive in nature on the fundamental level. This would make a potential difference nothing more than additional tension between charges and an electric current tension moving from one dielectric space to the next as applied force in any media often does. If we should consider Dr.Stifflers circuit in this light, as capacitive in nature---capacitors being conservitive in most every sense, then it makes things much easier to understand.

@allcanadian and others,
The truth of that, the capacitive nature of SEC, cannot be overstated. I spent the last 6 hours switching back and forth between a fan motor and my modified fan with an alternator on it. I will be working with experimenting / understanding the capacitances in this monster for awhile. I cannot, YET, get the circuit to regularly start the motor / generator through the board C to backplane. Layout, understanding of the capacitances, and etc will come with time and experiment. A fan motor by itself, no problem. Maybe the additional mass added to the motor. Maybe magnets in the SEC? Maybe something else? Don't know yet. Two fingers pinching the motor leads and bang fires up everytime. This critter had impedances changing, I got tagged a couple of times from the alternator leads with the motor running and with it stalled, keep in mind the alternator is not connected to anything at this point, at least not intentionally or visibly. I literally had a little neon almost melt, I should have measured the temp but didn't. I'm telling you it was much hotter than 110F, like burning your hand on the stove hot. The little NE bulbs glow bright orange when excited like this, the big boys glow orange-red-purple. I'm thinking about just mounting all of my breadboards to the same sheet of aluminum and see what that does for me. I was experimenting this morning on the WISH board only but I don't think the capacitance is right, at least not for what I was doing this morning. Just as a "control" or sanity check I fired up the heat circuit first and measured it then went on to experimenting. The heater functioned exactly as before. Trying to run the circuit as posted by Dr. Stiffler with a motor and then three additional plugs with 3 LED's would not work correctly with my alternator. The pictures below show a circuit configuration that did run. Notice the difference in NE intensity with and without a capacitor back to V+. Very interesting and painstaking work. Everybody say thanks for all the hard work DOC! I can't imagine how long he has been at this. 

Much more to follow,

Jim 

[DrStiffler]

@All
I do not imagine any of the SEC operation makes much sense to most people because we are always looking for the "current" flow and we equate this with work being done. What we should be looking for is the capacitor, if everything is made up of opposite charges then the space beween these charges could be considered a dielectric,that is electrostatic thus capacitive in nature on the fundamental level. This would make a potential difference nothing more than additional tension between charges and an electric current tension moving from one dielectric space to the next as applied force in any media often does. If we should consider Dr.Stifflers circuit in this light, as capacitive in nature---capacitors being conservitive in most every sense, then it makes things much easier to understand.

@RStiffler
I was browsing your site---again , I mean no offence or to imply anything but regarding your CRE circuit, I have read Dr.Rhodes work and if I remember correctly I thought he had mentioned adding a capacitor in the exact fashion you have in your circuit. It makes perfect sense to add a capacitor of course and I enjoyed the explanation you gave for doing such a thing ie.. the bucket brigade. In regards to using an electron twice as you stated, In the case of using a capacitor with the source this may be the case but that is only one half of the equation, when you add an inductance to the circuit utilized in the correct manner another recycling loop is created. The problem I believe was never charging an inductor but utilizing the inductive discharge to its greatest advantage. In any case, keep up the good work---I am still waiting like everyone else I imagine for the grand finale.

@allcanadian
No offense taken, but I sure hope that I did not reinvent the wheel here and it is not to close to what you mentioned. I have never seen the work you refer to, can you point me to it??

Anyway you are correct in many ways, yet I found that the CRE does have limitations and it seems that a SEC Exciter is working better than CRE, more will be posted on this.

Capacitor approach, Yes!, correct, I have been saying all along to look at it in the terms of capacity, BUT not capacity back to the source supply thus completing a standard circuit. Rather a capacitive coupling to the Spacial Energy Lattice (nodes). A SEC Exciter excites the lattice into vibration and during this vibration a small window is opened through which energy can be absorbed by the circuit via capacitive coupling. The worst thing to think of here is the term "Displacement Current" there is as you say (No Current). Nothing is being transfered from the Energy Nodes to the circuit, except Potential via capacitive difference. I think this should make sense to you.

When the paper is out the people that want to understand will and the rest will continue their fits of laughter. Anyway, your on the money with what you said and it takes a bit of mind conditioning to view things in a non-current mode.