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Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

Started by hartiberlin, October 11, 2007, 05:28:41 PM

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forest

Are you sure about this AC ? I have measured something quite different ; AC in one direction but no AC when probes are reversed . I may be wrong but it looks like a pulsating DC (or maybe more then one field superposed ?) which deceive AC meter as being truly AC.Could someone confirm my finding ?
So many questions...I hope my comment is on topic ;-)

fritz

Quote from: forest on July 01, 2008, 06:12:25 PM
Are you sure about this AC ? I have measured something quite different ; AC in one direction but no AC when probes are reversed . I may be wrong but it looks like a pulsating DC (or maybe more then one field superposed ?) which deceive AC meter as being truly AC.Could someone confirm my finding ?
So many questions...I hope my comment is on topic ;-)

If your equipment shows something different on exchanging the probes,
you definitely have not the right setup to measure the stuff.
I see pretty no chance to measure that with multimeters or scopes directly.

The only way would be to integrate some high speed op-amp to the pcb,
which is connected in differential mode with appropriate resistors to
keep the voltage in  a suitable range - keeping the traces to the opamp
very short, shield & guard the input+OPAMP - then connecting a scope to
the output of the opamp should give some view which doesn?t disturb
the device under test.
Because of the high frequencies involved, every connected wire acts as
antenna, changes the output, acts as  load. The opamp would give the
chance to measure with minimum load - having enough output power
to drive the measurement equipment with constant load thru a coax
cable.


rgds.

aether22

Quote from: DrStiffler on July 01, 2008, 04:19:45 PM
@fritz
I would say (cautiously) that is pretty close to reality.

If I may then have a shot as something a little outside of reality then, so much so I doubt it.
Could it be that it is pulling in EM waves and rectifying them with the diodes? (This may sound a bit far out but Stiffler has found a field around some of these circuits that does not get weaker with distance but rather abruptly ends at a distance)

If so then a few thoughts occur.

First it would be interesting to add an antenna to the plug, I would recommend a coil made of multistrand wire, and possibly to wave coils and anything creating EM near it. (it is very likely pulling fields from the circuits that drive it, but it should be possible to add alternate fields to pull in)

Second, it may just be possibly to try this without diodes if this theory is correct, instead connect the single wire to an antenna (coil), and a load, possibly also a cap to help tune in a field, maybe deliberately detuning this from the circuit driving it, and comparing the ability to pickup a field from a nearby EM source with and without the sec active.

So don't rule out that it may be something more.

I got into this before most anyone else and am thinking that maybe just maybe I should hop back in, it sure seems that I should not have any trouble getting the basic effect since I can order a circuit.
But moreover it seems to me that if the magic is in the plug (otherwise why use it?) then any means of generating an AV plug oscillator should allow research into it and not just the highly efficient tiny circuits Stiffler is using, I am interested in how the plug works and not efficiency, hmmm.
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

DrStiffler

Quote from: aether22 on July 02, 2008, 08:40:59 AM
If I may then have a shot as something a little outside of reality then, so much so I doubt it.
Could it be that it is pulling in EM waves and rectifying them with the diodes? (This may sound a bit far out but Stiffler has found a field around some of these circuits that does not get weaker with distance but rather abruptly ends at a distance)

If so then a few thoughts occur.

First it would be interesting to add an antenna to the plug, I would recommend a coil made of multistrand wire, and possibly to wave coils and anything creating EM near it. (it is very likely pulling fields from the circuits that drive it, but it should be possible to add alternate fields to pull in)

Second, it may just be possibly to try this without diodes if this theory is correct, instead connect the single wire to an antenna (coil), and a load, possibly also a cap to help tune in a field, maybe deliberately detuning this from the circuit driving it, and comparing the ability to pickup a field from a nearby EM source with and without the sec active.

So don't rule out that it may be something more.

I got into this before most anyone else and am thinking that maybe just maybe I should hop back in, it sure seems that I should not have any trouble getting the basic effect since I can order a circuit.
But moreover it seems to me that if the magic is in the plug (otherwise why use it?) then any means of generating an AV plug oscillator should allow research into it and not just the highly efficient tiny circuits Stiffler is using, I am interested in how the plug works and not efficiency, hmmm.
@aether22
A few facts that are easily proven that may help in you view and idea. The efficiency of a SEC Exciter increases with decreased diode capacity. This can be easily shown by using four 1N4148's (two each in series) versus the single diodes. This can be checked by time taken to charge a particular capacitor and the resulting higher voltage. Another test is to replace the IN4148's with UF1N4007 and even try SMD UltaHigh Frequency diodes. The response, output voltage and charge efficiency can all be correlated to diode capacity. Physical size does not have a significant effect.

Now there are a few types of current flowing in a SEC Exciter (they are all conventional when its show time). The normal supply current, ionic current and coherence current. Supply and ionic current are power wasters. In fact allowing the Exciters to climb to high in voltage is not desired as there is a corresponding increase in ionic current contribution. This added ionic current will cause and show up as increase supply input current, but can be seen by monitoring both rails of the supply.

Adding an antenna or any other conductive mass as a load or enhancer is a killer of the whole process. I have stated in this thread (hinted I guess) that the whole phenomenon is taking place in the small junctions of the diodes.

Now for some sci-fi that may indeed match your thoughts. Let us imagine a water filled balloon hanging in free space, (this balloon is created by the wide band width of the exciter). If you could tether an object in the center of this filled balloon and watch its movement as you tapped simultaneously around the balloon you would see at certain times a huge response  and resulting effect on the object caused by the correct phasing of two or more of the wave fronts caused by your taps. Now if the balloon is created by the exciter and the diodes do indeed capture and turn into current this energy the SEC Exciter could be seen as showing excess energy, which indeed would be true, but it is not OU and is not manufactured or new energy.

We could carry this on in private, I lost your address when we changed computer.
All things are possible but some are impractical.

Kator01

Hello Dr. Stiffler,

may I give this link here from Prof. Aspdens website :

Subject : The Correa-Invention

http://www.aspden.org/reports/Es8/Rep8.htm

I think plasma-properties in the neons contribute to the energy also

Kator