Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

[fritz]

I will look at your site. Thank you.

Well I just replaced the coil, with a  much bigger one (0.3H). And LOL, if the readings on my power supply would be correct, I now generate electricity ( - 0.07A, before I had +0.05A) LOL (and this is quite a professional power supply)
Sure this reading is a measurement error due to the HF impulses. But now I can understand why so many people with other devices are so easily convinced they developed an OU device...and then disappointed if they are not able to close the loop...
If only I had more time...

You can play that game so far that you blow the internal electrolytic cap of
the supply. Thats the reason why a "good" powersupply from hp/agilent may
cost more than $1000,-.
I blow the cap of my $250,- Powersupply with the back-emf of my stepper motors...
Replaced the (dead) output electrolyte with a LOW-ESR 105deg. type - and soldered
a capacitor bank with mixed SMD ceramic and foil capacitors(some uF) to the output
terminals of the supply. (dont add more capacity as original installed - the voltage regulator
can handle only a limited amount of capacity).
Now I can drive slightly inductive or HF loads without stupid voltage/current readings (you
shouldn?t trust them anyway if you have inductors on board).
Even if working with a car type pb battery - you should use a capacitor bank in parallel - .

rgds.

[Shanti]

I blow the cap of my $250,- Powersupply with the back-emf of my stepper motors...

LOL, well mine did cost about $500.

Well with your advice of the caps it should be possible to get more or less usable readings at least for this application, as the transistor has some frequency limit, but I think if you use really UHF Impulses (like from a Spark gap), you will have such high frequency components in it that it's almost impossible to measure them anymore correctly. Especially if they are not only HF but also HighVoltage.
The parasitic components (inductance and capacitance) of even a normal shunt resistors (and of course the wiring) will then surface and badly influence your readings...
Do you know of any method, other than the good old heat wire power meters to measure accurate in these conditions?
For I for myself, when I watch some YouTube videos of e.g. a Newman or a Bedini, showing the reading on conventional Digital-Meter, just have to laugh. For this actually doesn't show anything, but the lack of understanding, how to measure correctly.

@Stiffler:
Did you try, at which frequency the electrolysis starts to work?
I for myself, just tried it with 50Hz (mains freq). Took a Neon transformer and 2 diodes at one side (other side at GND). No electrolysis. But the "capacitance" of the water is enough to easily get sparks if you have one cable in the water and the other above it. I would really like to know, what would be the minimum frequency to get an electrolysis with this method.
Seems, like when I got some time, I will have to do sime freq-sweep...

[fritz]

LOL, well mine did cost about $500.

Well with your advice of the caps it should be possible to get more or less usable readings at least for this application, as the transistor has some frequency limit, but I think if you use really UHF Impulses (like from a Spark gap), you will have such high frequency components in it that it's almost impossible to measure them anymore correctly. Especially if they are not only HF but also HighVoltage.
The parasitic components (inductance and capacitance) of even a normal shunt resistors (and of course the wiring) will then surface and badly influence your readings...
Do you know of any method, other than the good old heat wire power meters to measure accurate in these conditions?
For I for myself, when I watch some YouTube videos of e.g. a Newman or a Bedini, showing the reading on conventional Digital-Meter, just have to laugh. For this actually doesn't show anything, but the lack of understanding, how to measure correctly.

Its quite easy to get rid of vhf and uhf.
Take a 2-3m long wire pair(or 100m), mount up to 100 different ferrite pearls,
and the stuff is gone.
If you want to be on the safe side, take a camera which films the meters,
put the powersupply  into a mu metal box, filter the output, feed it with
wire thru hole caps outside, take the next bigger mu metal box, do the
same ... and so on (and dont forget to put as much ferrite pearls as you
can get everywhere)
Its only a matter of effort and money.

But who knows what happens inside those mu metal boxes ?

Maybe there?s something relativistic going on ;-)))))


rgds.

Well, you have the camera.

[DrStiffler]

LOL, well mine did cost about $500.

Well with your advice of the caps it should be possible to get more or less usable readings at least for this application, as the transistor has some frequency limit, but I think if you use really UHF Impulses (like from a Spark gap), you will have such high frequency components in it that it's almost impossible to measure them anymore correctly. Especially if they are not only HF but also HighVoltage.
The parasitic components (inductance and capacitance) of even a normal shunt resistors (and of course the wiring) will then surface and badly influence your readings...
Do you know of any method, other than the good old heat wire power meters to measure accurate in these conditions?
For I for myself, when I watch some YouTube videos of e.g. a Newman or a Bedini, showing the reading on conventional Digital-Meter, just have to laugh. For this actually doesn't show anything, but the lack of understanding, how to measure correctly.

@Stiffler:
Did you try, at which frequency the electrolysis starts to work?
I for myself, just tried it with 50Hz (mains freq). Took a Neon transformer and 2 diodes at one side (other side at GND). No electrolysis. But the "capacitance" of the water is enough to easily get sparks if you have one cable in the water and the other above it. I would really like to know, what would be the minimum frequency to get an electrolysis with this method.
Seems, like when I got some time, I will have to do sime freq-sweep...

@Shanti
Scanning water with various frequencies to observe response is problematic at best. I spent considerable time doing this and was fooled until I caught on. You need a fresh cell each time you change frequency otherwise as the ion concentration build from successive tests al of a sudden you see gas and think this is the one. Yet do the same test in a fresh cell and you will see it is not so.

I did scans all the way to 1Mhz in various steps. Sweeping the cell presents the same problem with build up ions.

Now if you scan with capacitive coupling, that is a whole new ball game.

[amigo]

Doc,

What has happened to your website, it's not accessible anymore?

Did you take it down or you are being el-cheapo by not wanting to pay $4/mo for shared hosting on the Net.

Hell I'll host your site on my private server for free if you want?