Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

[DrStiffler]

@ALL

Slow up a bit fellows and slowly read the document. I can tell from what I am seeing that the first replications will not work.

Why?

1) Sizes are wrong for the Exciter. You need a minimum V/m density and that depends on both cell size and the voltage available from the Exciter. Your not using the AV Plug or diodes to drive the gas reactor, but you can use the AV plug to find the output of your exciter. Remove the neon, replace with a 100uF/250v cap. Turn the exciter on, leave for one minute. Quickly turn off the exciter and measure the voltage across the cap. DO NOT leave one or more leads of your meter connected while charging. If you have a leaky cap get another one.

2) The cell should NOT be pressurized. If you go to using flame suppressors you will be required to maintain a minimum pressure for the gas to get through. This gas is not explosive like the common HHO, but it will back burn, but only if it can receive oxygen. Good container, good rate of production, don't let the water get way down so you have a buildup and you will have a very nice slow burn control able flame.

3) Based on exciter voltage you get your container, this is used to calculate the electrode spacing.

4) Read the document I have seen people think that getting the voltage higher on the electrodes would increase operation. The voltage is high enough, if you run your cell, stop it and quickly measure across a pair of electrodes you can see voltages up to 350V, it will decrease fast from the load of the meter, but you can get a fast look. This voltage is generated inside the cell.

Fellows has no one seem the circuit yet, guess what, this is a reverse AV Plug with the earth as the source.

[Loki67671]

@Dr. Stiffler,
Thanks Doc.

Best,

Jim

[aether22]

Fellows has no one seem the circuit yet, guess what, this is a reverse AV Plug with the earth as the source.

That was obvious, but you know what, I think that's the difference.

One thing I have found many times (though there are some seeming exceptions, where isolation occurs only through an inductor) is an isolation between one part that excites the medium, and the part that receives the energy.

So if you replaced electrolysis with something else but used the same form (the water, the diodes and ground) you might well find OU with any load.
Of course electrolysis is the natural choice with all the water.

Of course also worth noting as was the point of your message, electrostatic pingings of the water do play a part (not all is provided by the plug apparently) so maybe I am oversimplifying it, still the fluros did show the same tendency apparently (more light less current with additional fluros)

[nickle989]

Well it has been a busy time in my life lately .. nice to see Dr. Stiffler showing and evolving the SEC ... looks like I have some major catching up to do.

@ Jim ... for your version 1 .. you could pass it through a bubbler ... bring the tube into a water bottle .. using water as the medium to stop the flash back.  This is what I use in my conventional HHO producer ... that being said ... welding flash arrestors will not work as Hydrogen has such a fast propagation burn ...

Nice book Jim ... Time Pattern's  ... have had that one for a few years now ... nice little bible.

Please correct me if I am wrong ...

the gasses being produced if it is only H and O2 and these are burned together will give a very loud  ear ringing popping sound when extinguished ... it will not matter on the the size of the flame.  There must be enough gass being produced to continue the flame to burn on top of itself and not have the flame burn into itself and blow up the vessel.  Now if gass being created has other then H and O2 in it then what I have said just won't matter .. lol.  Either way get a damn sterling engine on this flame and make it self run ... sheesh what more do you need for proof ... I can hardly wait till I get my workshop back up as I have recently moved.

[mdmiller]

@yucca

I have discovered that if I saturate the SEC15-1 output inductor (inductor just before AV plug) just right using a handheld neo magnet (1/4 inch x 1inch) then I can get very strong SEC output, I think it encourages the higher frequencies? Its best to watch a neon while you do it to find the sweet spot, only recommended with a heatsink on your SEC transistor. I think this might be helpful for all those going for fire.

I mentioned this to the Dr a couple of months ago.  I found the sweet spot to be between the chokes or right at the edge of the 10uH.  Take a small neo and put a 1" or so steel wood screw on it to focus the flux, then use the tip of the screw, it works much better since the spot is so small.  Actually touching the screw tip to the choke body makes things go crazy (right where you can see the coil at the end of the body), and turn it at a 45 degree angle to the longitudinal line of the choke for even more.  There is also a spot exactly between the chokes about 4mm or so above the board surface.

A neo placed on the face of the .01uF cap also causes some improvement.  But BE CAREFUL, I've smoked the transistor several times (even with a heat sink), and burn out my gear, there seems to be a surge taking place.  It also leads to extreme headaches.  The last time I did this, about an hour afterward lighting hit the tree in the front yard, just so you've been warned.
-Duane