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Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

Started by hartiberlin, October 11, 2007, 05:28:41 PM

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>>Selfrunning cold electricity circuit ....<<
Hmm, selfrunning... Cold electricity....

Btw, where is this additional energy for "selfrunning" supposed to come from? Ambient heat, RF, atmospheric charges, .. ZPE?

What happend with the original circut (oscillator, ...) and why are you now working woth "superefficent electrolysis"? Is this circuit recognised as OU? (12V, a few tens of milliamps and a burning flame...I would say so.).
Any valid measurements made so far, like calorimetry? It's still a work in progress, right?

Sorry for asking and thanks for (possible) answers.

"Ex nihilo nihil"

DrStiffler

@All

A couple of problems are floating to the surface with replications.

1) Connection of Cu (copper) wire to the carbon rods within the electrolyte is a big problem. One replicator had a cell running for 13 hours and the flame went out. It could be re-lighted but would go back out after about a second. The input to the Exciter was consistent of when it was burning. The cell was disassembled ant it was found that the epoxy around the connection was not 100% and the wire dissolved.

2) Replicator left the connection end out of the electrolyte, but used a SS screw and a Cu tab to connect the Cu wire to the rod. It appears that there was some catalytic action because the Cu tab and wire to dissolve.

I have had similar problems. We need a good way to make the connections so that the metal reactions with each other and the electrolyte will not destroy the connection. I think the first design by Loki may be a possible answer, all connections fully external of the cell. This problem is out of my area of expertise, we need input by those in other areas.

I am now going for a design like Loki and use Cu clips on the external rod connection. The only thing is we need to seal the rod entry for at least 2 atm.

Open for ideas from the group.
All things are possible but some are impractical.

Loki67671

Quote from: DrStiffler on August 08, 2008, 03:02:03 PM
@All

A couple of problems are floating to the surface with replications.

1) Connection of Cu (copper) wire to the carbon rods within the electrolyte is a big problem. One replicator had a cell running for 13 hours and the flame went out. It could be re-lighted but would go back out after about a second. The input to the Exciter was consistent of when it was burning. The cell was disassembled ant it was found that the epoxy around the connection was not 100% and the wire dissolved.

2) Replicator left the connection end out of the electrolyte, but used a SS screw and a Cu tab to connect the Cu wire to the rod. It appears that there was some catalytic action because the Cu tab and wire to dissolve.

I have had similar problems. We need a good way to make the connections so that the metal reactions with each other and the electrolyte will not destroy the connection. I think the first design by Loki may be a possible answer, all connections fully external of the cell. This problem is out of my area of expertise, we need input by those in other areas.

I am now going for a design like Loki and use Cu clips on the external rod connection. The only thing is we need to seal the rod entry for at least 2 atm.

Open for ideas from the group.


@All,
I was concerned with corroding copper via electrolysis hence the external connections. So much so that I did not pay attention to the calculations for my electrode spacing. The diameter of that container in design #1 is 4.7625cm which should give me a bit over the required 3kV/meter electrostatic bias field but my electrode spacing appears to be less than half the required dimension. I will correct this.
And also look at some of the conductive epoxy adhesives along with old motor brush bonding techniques for possible solution to the wire to electrode connection.

Sealing of the rod entry could possibly be accomplished by using an O-ring epoxied into place under the lid/electrode holder of the container.

The capacitor test on my SEC exciter showed a developed voltage on the capacitor after approximately 1 minute of run time of 149.8VDC. I am considering a cell made from plastic pipe with an OD of 2.00" but greater height to allow greater than the 75ml of water held by the current container. I will update the group as I progress. Thanks for pointing out my mistakes Dr. Stiffler.

I am hoping to get a replication going shortly.

Best regards,

Jim
"When the water stinks, I break the dam, with Love I break it" .............Loki

"One must be completely immersed in the cold darkness to truly adore or loathe the light" .............Loki

Science, my lad, is made up of mistakes, but they are mistakes which it is useful to make, because they lead little by little to the truth." - Jules Verne

aether22

Quote from: mdmiller on August 08, 2008, 12:00:07 PM
@yucca
I mentioned this to the Dr a couple of months ago.  I found the sweet spot to be between the chokes or right at the edge of the 10uH.  Take a small neo and put a 1" or so steel wood screw on it to focus the flux, then use the tip of the screw, it works much better since the spot is so small.  Actually touching the screw tip to the choke body makes things go crazy (right where you can see the coil at the end of the body), and turn it at a 45 degree angle to the longitudinal line of the choke for even more.  There is also a spot exactly between the chokes about 4mm or so above the board surface.

A neo placed on the face of the .01uF cap also causes some improvement.  But BE CAREFUL, I've smoked the transistor several times (even with a heat sink), and burn out my gear, there seems to be a surge taking place.  It also leads to extreme headaches.  The last time I did this, about an hour afterward lighting hit the tree in the front yard, just so you've been warned.
-Duane

Thank you very much for that! (and Yucca too)

I have had an electrical event after one of my experiments and I have heard of many other cases, lightening or electrical arcs or blown grid transformers during or after experiments. (in some occasions continued arcs inside rooms even after the device is off)

These alterations are precisely what I would expect, and what has confused me is that so often doing these things has no effect.

The problem with this whole area of the aether/lattice is that the effects are not always present when they should be, because of course it's not electrical but spacial (and until they reach a critical mass you have nothing) and if you use things that amplify aetheric effects without a primary aether effect you get nowhere.

And then there is the issue of turning the aetheric disturbance into something that can be used.

But Stiffler has done it, IMO he really does not realize the power of this stuff given the right components (or at any rate has no idea of the components) to feed of the effect, Stiffler and I have come at this from totally different directions, for myself I have come from the big picture that starts out fuzzy and gets more detailed and defined and finally might just become practical.
Where Stiffler has come from the detailed small effect, he doesn't start out with much but he knows what he's got and how to generate it reliably and slowly is can be engineered into something big.

The SEC is the power source, the catalyst to making much larger and more impressive things reliable.

Loki, hows mailing you know what coming? is it coming?  can't wait.




?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

creator

I've only recently discovered this thread, and have become both intensely intrigued and overwhelmingly frustrated. I'm appealing to "old hands" for help in the form of one or more of the following:

1) An index to key posts, schematics, etc.
2) Any mirror site(s) for www.stifflerscientific.com? It has been inaccessible since I found this thread
3) Any file archive for any and all files (any significant links I've found in the thread seem to be "down.")
4) Information as to how to purchase plans/kits/blank PCBs for SEC 15-3 and/or SEC 5-20 or any other variants?

Thanks in advance for any and all help... I'm struggling to make a living and just don't have all the time needed to chase all this stuff down alone... :)