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Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

Started by hartiberlin, October 11, 2007, 05:28:41 PM

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amigo

Quote from: Thaelin on April 22, 2009, 10:02:09 AM
   But on the other side, you have just shown me the way to fire 4 foot fl tubes for my apt. Just
curious, what is the ma drain you see? I want one for the bath, bed, kitchen and two for the main
room. Each will have its own batt and should last a long time per charge. Using 5ah gells  for the
power. That should just about drop my elec bill to the monthly and watch them cry a bit.

thaelin


Hi Thaelin,

The current draw is probably sub 200mA or sub 100mA because the MPSA06 cannot operate above that threshold (it burns out).

The transistor still requires a copper heat sink on it, running it anywhere over 80mA...

AbbaRue

If anyone is really worried about the RF given off by the SEC circuit they could get some chicken wire,
and make a simple cage around there setup.
Just connect the chicken wire to ground and that should stop the RF from leaving area.

@slayer007
Awsome resaults!
I tried building a SEC circuit based on the same dia. as yours but couldn't get good resaults.
I think my problem may be the Transistor I was using.  I used 2N5551's. 
Need to get some MPSA06's. 
I did have some success with a very early version of the SEC when it used the AM antenna. 
Like the one by Amigo on page 69
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3457.680
Interesting how the SEC started out as a Joule Thief with a ferrite antenna instead of a toroid,
and then evolved into what we have on page 226.



slayer007

Quote from: AbbaRue on April 23, 2009, 06:16:38 PM
If anyone is really worried about the RF given off by the SEC circuit they could get some chicken wire,
and make a simple cage around there setup.
Just connect the chicken wire to ground and that should stop the RF from leaving area.

@slayer007
Awsome resaults!
I tried building a SEC circuit based on the same dia. as yours but couldn't get good resaults.
I think my problem may be the Transistor I was using.  I used 2N5551's. 
Need to get some MPSA06's. 
I did have some success with a very early version of the SEC when it used the AM antenna. 
Like the one by Amigo on page 69
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3457.680
Interesting how the SEC started out as a Joule Thief with a ferrite antenna instead of a toroid,
and then evolved into what we have on page 226.





Thanks AbbaRue

Yes the MPSA06's. are a must for this circuit.
I bought 100 of them off ebay for around $9 with shipping.

Some others might work but I think these are the best I found so far for this circuit.

amigo

I am of an opinion that MPSA06 is not necessarily the only transistor that will work, though it is the best one so far.

I have gotten the SEC effect with 2N2222, 2N3904, 2N3905...I have some 2N4401 and will try those as well soon.

Also, with all the testing I have done, I do not believe hFE has major impact on the performance of the SEC (though it might be contributing to its operation). The MPSA06s tried were from several different vendors with a wide range of gains, anywhere from 60 to over 300, and they all appeared to have performed as expected.

Of course, as no real sensitive measurements have been done, it still warrants further investigation and experimentation to determine which ones do work better than others.

DrStiffler

Quote from: AbbaRue on April 23, 2009, 06:16:38 PM
If anyone is really worried about the RF given off by the SEC circuit they could get some chicken wire,
and make a simple cage around there setup.
Just connect the chicken wire to ground and that should stop the RF from leaving area.

@slayer007
Awsome resaults!
I tried building a SEC circuit based on the same dia. as yours but couldn't get good resaults.
I think my problem may be the Transistor I was using.  I used 2N5551's. 
Need to get some MPSA06's. 
I did have some success with a very early version of the SEC when it used the AM antenna. 
Like the one by Amigo on page 69
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3457.680
Interesting how the SEC started out as a Joule Thief with a ferrite antenna instead of a toroid,
and then evolved into what we have on page 226.



@AbbaRue

**Interesting how the SEC started out as a Joule Thief with a ferrite antenna instead of a toroid,
and then evolved into what we have on page 226. **

LOL

What? SEC Exciters came from a JT? I know that sun spots are down, but this is ridiculous. Sorry to spoil your dream but the first open ended coil exciter was built in 1995.

Besides happening way before this JT thing was born LOL, how can you even compare the two different systems?
All things are possible but some are impractical.