Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

[derricka]

Ron sure knows how to build the suspense for his yet unreleased "closing the loop with a small solar panel" video. I have some thoughts on this regarding efficiency.  A typical white LED is about 27 percent efficient in terms of converting electrical energy into light energy, and a typical  commercially available polycrystalline or crystalline solar panel, about 10 to 20 percent efficient.  Assuming Ron is able to efficiently couple the light from LED's to solar panel he will be lucky to recover an efficiency of 2.7 to 5.4 percent. (My guess is that 1 to 2 percent would be more realistic.)  If Ron is able to pull this off, it would be a most impressive demonstration, as it means he is not only winning the fight, but winning with over 9 out 10 fingers tied behind his back!  Of course, to really impress us, the solar panel would feed a capacitor and not a battery, and all other significant light sources turned off or blocked, so as not to feed the solar panel.   Anyway, even if it turns out the solar panel dosn't provide enough power to close the loop, perhaps the loop can be closed with a couple of ceramic capacitors feeding a full wave bridge etc. perhaps trading the nice isolation provided by the solar panel, for higher efficiency.  Finally, I am thinking about designing an experimental circuit board, that anyone could download the data file for, and have made online, or make themselves.  (This would be for experimental, non commercial use only and layout copyright would go to Dr. Stiffler). Let me know if you are interested or have any thoughts on this, like where to put extra capacitance etc.

[hartiberlin]

I have opened up some additional information on the coils and how to do some measurements.

www.drstiffler.com/buildup.asp

Many thanks Ron for this extra pagewith this very well
done measurements.

By the way, that do you mean by
Coil response on the X-Axis at figure 10 there ?

If I will not get any amplificationb myself,when my cores
arrive, sign me up also for the 1 Watt device.

Seems you are heading to win the OverUnity prize,
when you break the 50 Watts barrier ! 

[hartiberlin]

Hi Ben,
nice to see your picture now with the 30 neon bulbs.

Can you tell us more about this ?

Did you also get the core from this Ebay seller
Mr. Lowe from Middletown, OH 45044 ?

Do you now see much more amplification with it ?

How much power did you put in there to drive
the 30 neon bulbs and at what frequency ?

What is you voltage p-p to drive this from your signal generator ?

Can you , if you hit the resonance frequency of the core
lower in the input signal generator  voltage , without the neon bulbs
reducing their brightness ?
If yes, to what level ?
Many thanks.

[retrod]

omg.... great.... the start of the end???

Your wrong!

Its the beginning.

Many researchers have invested hundreds of hours in this research and all they are asking is that their work be controlled in one place. Nothing is stopping people from talking or working with us all. The resource must be controlled or people will have various versions, buggy versions or obsolete versions. By maintaining information in one place means you will be able to obtain the latest and best information in a timely way.

I see no reason why this should close anything off to the public. We hope to release information as soon as it has been confirmed by multiple researchers, this means 'You' don't waste time and spend money going in the wrong direction.

The research has so advanced in the last weeks that 'Many' reputable researchers have confirmed many of the circuit designs to in fact be OU, but the maximum to date from a circuit is 5 watts with around 1 watt input. These circuits are very unstable but getting better by the day.

Stay tuned, if I don't get stoned for the offer, I am considering making 1 watt evaluations units available, built and working and ready for testing. We will see how this will be accepted before it becomes official.

You can count me in for an evaluation unit Dr Stiffler. I have access to a group of RF Engineers where I work. I would love to see their reactions as I demonstrate and guide them through the circuit, then direct them to your site. I think it's a good idea, the working units would be for the most part uniform and will enable spreading the word very easy, as seeing is believing for most people.
Dave

[retrod]

Ron sure knows how to build the suspense for his yet unreleased "closing the loop with a small solar panel" video. I have some thoughts on this regarding efficiency.  A typical white LED is about 27 percent efficient in terms of converting electrical energy into light energy, and a typical  commercially available polycrystalline or crystalline solar panel, about 10 to 20 percent efficient.  Assuming Ron is able to efficiently couple the light from LED's to solar panel he will be lucky to recover an efficiency of 2.7 to 5.4 percent. (My guess is that 1 to 2 percent would be more realistic.)  If Ron is able to pull this off, it would be a most impressive demonstration, as it means he is not only winning the fight, but winning with over 9 out 10 fingers tied behind his back!  Of course, to really impress us, the solar panel would feed a capacitor and not a battery, and all other significant light sources turned off or blocked, so as not to feed the solar panel.   Anyway, even if it turns out the solar panel dosn't provide enough power to close the loop, perhaps the loop can be closed with a couple of ceramic capacitors feeding a full wave bridge etc. perhaps trading the nice isolation provided by the solar panel, for higher efficiency.  Finally, I am thinking about designing an experimental circuit board, that anyone could download the data file for, and have made online, or make themselves.  (This would be for experimental, non commercial use only and layout copyright would go to Dr. Stiffler). Let me know if you are interested or have any thoughts on this, like where to put extra capacitance etc.

There have been recent breakthroughs in solar cell research. This article mentions efficiency of 42%
http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/rea/news/story?id=49483     This of course does not mean a trial sample is readily available but there is hope.

Dave