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Overunity Machines Forum



Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

Started by hartiberlin, October 11, 2007, 05:28:41 PM

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zaydana

Amigo:
I can understand how you would be agitated at people seemingly not thinking outside of the box. I'm a software engineer with a few ideas of my own which have been frequently called "impossible" purely because they are unconventional. And thats not the only area people tell me I can't do something purely because nobody else has ever thought of it.

However, if i'm not mistaken, what we are searching for is a way to produce power seemingly out of thin air. Some people may dispute the wording of that, but to be blunt about it, thats what we want. We want a box we can plug our devices into, and they'll run. Unless I'm mistaken, that is the reason most of us area here. We want one of those boxes.

So, when somebody claims they've built an OU machine, the first thing they want to know is if it could possibly used to build that black box. This is why so many people are asking for numbers - if we have a single number which proves to us beyond all doubt that this device has a COP > 1, then what does at matter what other people think, orthodox or not? We have our black box, and we're happy at that.

While obviously dreams and imagination are a huge part of the search for alternative energy, things still need to be grounded in reality. We'll never find an alternative energy source if we can't think outside the box, as you say. But we'll never find one either if we can't prove that what we have found will provide that energy. There is plenty of imagination amoungst the people in this thread, but now we have something, we need to test it, and see if it provides what we are looking for. If it does (which many people seem to believe), then there'll be plenty of time for more dreams and imagination afterwards, but if it doesn't, theres no point continuing to waste time on it. Tesla obviously had a brilliant imagination, and huge dreams. However, he wasn't averse to numbers. Indeed, without numbers, he never would have stood a chance.

I guess if you can build a device which powers itself, that would be ample proof, and we would stop asking for numbers. But if every time we heard about a claimed OU device we didn't stop working on it until we built a self-powering setup, most of us wouldn't have even got around to looking at this claim. While the numbers won't prove anything about the nature of cold electricity, they can disprove the RF hypothesis, and give us continued reason to look for the principles of operation of this circuit.

In short, we want to disprove their RF hypothesis with their own numbers, so that we can keep dreaming.

plengo

and now the word is "resonance". So magical so simple so explainable and yet meaningless.

Can someone please, explain what resonance really is? I hear this as an explanation for the phenomena and the first answer was RF and now is resonance. Please. Explain it like my 1 year old daugther could understand.

It means nothing this word as some are using so it is amps here and amps there. As Bedini said: What is an current?

Because mathematically things makes some sence when impedance and capacitance gets into synch does not explain anything at all. Thats the problem which I agree with amigo. People are just repeating books but no brains, no logic, no real understanding.

So again, how come the LEDs are lighting up with RF and now resonance? How could Dr. Stifller "amplify" this simple stupid thing called "resonance"?

Before was the: light is a wave and now is a particle (which particle sounds more convincing) but waves does not explain anything, does it? What is it?

Until we understand, like amigo said, outside the box, none of you guys will ever get anywhere.

Fausto.

hansvonlieven

Resonance is the exchange of energy that happens between two bodies of the same frequency or harmonics of that frequency.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

DrZLowe7

@zaydana
You are correct. Look outside , inside and under the box. The Armstrong oscillator "Thomson circuit" was claimed by Stiffler to be well over overunity buy at least 2 times. This is a very simple circuit and if Stiffler was correct in his clams this simple device should be enough to work with. I have seen Stiffler show or make around 4 different types of oscillator circuits to produce the high voltage and high frequencies for his devices. If this simple one produces 2X+ overunity work on and explore it. If you can not prove OU with it try building something more elaborate. Say one of his 4X OU circuits. I am not saying stop.
My only thing with math is Stiffler clams overunity at the same time saying it can not be measured so how can he claim OU. He must be getting numbers somewhere.Or making assumptions which is not good science.

DrZLowe7

Quote from: plengo on November 21, 2007, 12:40:13 AM
and now the word is "resonance". So magical so simple so explainable and yet meaningless.

Can someone please, explain what resonance really is? I hear this as an explanation for the phenomena and the first answer was RF and now is resonance. Please. Explain it like my 1 year old daugther could understand.

Fausto.
If you apply a current to a wire or coil a magnetic field will build up then if you break the current an opposite field will build up and collapse and build up then collapse again each time in a diffrent direction with less energy at a rate dependant on inductance. For every action there is a like and oppsitate reaction so say your daughter is an electron on a swing when you give a push it will swing back and fourth. This back and fourth movement is the resonate frequency of the swing.  But at resonance once you push the swing at the precise moment when the swing returns you push again. This will take less energy to keep the swing going than your original push. However if you step forward from your position where you were pushing say directly under the swing. When the swing returns it will most likely knock you down. Then if you stay there and keep tyring to push the swing you use very much energy and your daughter will not have a very good time. You are then out of resonance.
Now RF is like swing back and forth like the swing in polarity. So finding the precise time to push it like the swing will take less energy and enhance it and keep it going with little energy. And any RF not in unison is like you in the middle of the swing.