Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

[fritz]

@All

If you want to try and get software to simulate the simple SEC, the following is pretty close to what you want to use.

Hi !

The used diode model - as well as the diode parameters for the AV plug are
essential.
As long as you use identical models and identical parameters for both diodes
- nothing can (will) happen.

If we talk about spice and derivates - it could make sense to use a diode
"piece" of a transistor  - because the models for transistors are somehow
more comprehensive than that one of "stupid" diodes - typicalwise never
used in such configuration.
[everything else simulates quite easy - as long as you use a "real" power
supply in the simulation (add series resistor,etc.) and find the right bias for
the transistor]
BTW: The problem is the model for the AV diodes -> NO SEC
You can replace them with damped multiband delay lines ....(hint)


rgds.

[turbo]

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[DrStiffler]

@All

If you want to try and get software to simulate the simple SEC, the following is pretty close to what you want to use.

Hi !

The used diode model - as well as the diode parameters for the AV plug are
essential.
As long as you use identical models and identical parameters for both diodes
- nothing can (will) happen.

If we talk about spice and derivates - it could make sense to use a diode
"piece" of a transistor  - because the models for transistors are somehow
more comprehensive than that one of "stupid" diodes - typicalwise never
used in such configuration.
[everything else simulates quite easy - as long as you use a "real" power
supply in the simulation (add series resistor,etc.) and find the right bias for
the transistor]
BTW: The problem is the model for the AV diodes -> NO SEC
You can replace them with damped multiband delay lines ....(hint)


rgds.

@Fritz
Your correct on the delay line approach.

[Loki67671]

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[fritz]

@ Stiffler

So we are talking about 2 _DIFFERENT_ diodes
acting as pump-charged chaos amps operated by the
same "jamming" voltage.
This means that the output resistance of the AV plug
is determined by the diode junction - and the energy
is a product of the charge in the junction and the frequentness
it is released. hmmmm
Sounds like an innovative impedance converter.
Ever tried different (slower (do they really exist !?)) diodes with
wider junction area (e.g. enclosed photo diodes)?

Do you think the AV-Plug is involved in the "SEC" effect - or is
just helpful to "harvest" the produced energy ?

rgds,

PS: I agree with you that it makes no sense to use traditional
equippement SA, Scopes, to analyze this. Using a very fast
transient recorder and matlab would make more sense = gives
at least a precise (abstract) picture of what is happening.