Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

[retrod]

@ALL

It would appeared that everyone is ignoring a very important post (request) I made??

I asked that two meters of the same type be used with one in the +v and one in the -v power lines to a running exciter (with the Al backing plate floating, nothing connected to it).

Take a set of readings (they should be the same) +/- a digit or meter accuracy.

Connect an Earth ground to the Al backing plate, what are the meter readings??

Are they the same or are they different, if different by how much, how could this be explained.

**The power supply must be a battery of 16-20 volts. The Exciter should be running a neon or at least three LEDs.

Dr Stiffler,
I built the basic replication today (one neon) using the Jameco list you provided, including the proto-board as suggested. I rewound the tuning coil with #26 copper magnet wire to fill the form. I have a region of somewhat unstable operation when the tuning slug is about 3/4 to the top. I have stable operation area with the slug peaking over the top. This stable operation is about 10ma higher current then the other peak. For the test you requested I used the stable region at higher current.
I connected two meters (a Fluke 75 & a 77). With the proto-board backing plate not grounded to earth I read 37.2 ma on each leg at the same time. When I connect earth ground the current on each leg reads 38.5. Right or wrong, this is what I got.

Dave

[Charlie_V]

Quote from: RStiffler on April 12, 2008, 05:37:56 PM

Are they the same or are they different, if different by how much, how could this be explained.

60Hz noise (50Hz if in Europe).  I see increases in AC current all the time when devices are grounded due to wall outlet noise - we are all coursing with 60/50Hz AC electricity, all the time! 

[plengo]

Today I tried what you have asked Dr. Stiffler. Two meters on each pole of power. With battery and power source. After many experimentations the results are only more weird.

When no ground connected, both - and + would show the same current usage, in my case about 38ma. Connecting the ground at many different locations including the backing plate, current would differenciate sometimes up to 20ma, so one would show 35ma (lower power consumption) and the other would be 45ma.

Another strange factor is, when playing with more capacitors on the board and differente places to connect the ground, better results can be achieved that being, less current consumption and brighter lights. I also have been playing more with the wireless transmission of power to another board with more AV Plugs and neons and LEDs. On that board also when connecting the ground would drastically improve light brightness without even changing the consumption of power on the SEC board. Very interesting.

MOre videos will come up soon about it.

Fausto.

[Loki67671]

@All
My results from the current experiment:

Circuit description: SEC exciter-  1 AV plug with NE bulb-16.25 VDC input

SEC fired and tuned for max (subjective) NE Floating back plate            + leg current=55.6ma   - leg current=55.6ma
SEC fired and tuned for max (subjective) NE Hand over ckt                    + leg current=56.42ma  - leg current=55.9ma
SEC fired and tuned for max (subjective) NE Earth  Plate                       + leg current=60.28ma  - leg current=60.1ma
SEC fired and tuned for max (subjective) NE Earth Plate removed           + leg current=55.91ma  - leg current=55.6ma

Not only does it appear to provide a current path but once established a current imbalance also appeared to remain there. I'm seeing what appears to be more current in the positive leg than the negative leg after I read them balanced and then messed with the circuit by attaching earth ground to the plate. Removing the ground did not seem to restore it. Turning off all equipment and restarting did.

Best regards,

Jim

[Loki67671]

@All
Results from Conductive Mass added to the SEC with no electrical connections, mass just sitting on the breadboard. (Mass added was a 7.5" X 1.5" X 0.25" copper bar, 1 Excelite screwdriver, and the pancake fan / alt combination) The addition of the mass caused the current to increase by about 2ma and then stabilize at the new level. Hand touching the copper bar added another 1.2ma or so. then removing the mass returned the circuit back to the starting current levels approximately 56.1ma. Addition of the fan motor assembly MASS caused the greatest increase and and removal caused the greatest decrease in current, no electrical connections.

Chained LED with alternating connection to Annode and Cathode as suggested also functions.

Best regards,

Jim