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Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

Started by hartiberlin, October 11, 2007, 05:28:41 PM

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DrStiffler

Quote from: hartiberlin on May 10, 2008, 07:41:07 PM
Hi All,
I have received my SEC circuit, but did not yet have any time
to fire it up.

Great progress by all users here.

By the way, just watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP-RmzjN0l8

Maybe it could be used to use UV LEDs to enhance
the heat output of the SEC even more.

Purple glowing neon plasma has probably more heat output.

Regards, Stefan.
@Stefan
Yes, indeed a UV source can aid in the first ignition of the neon as shown in the video you listed, but there are a couple of points that should be of additional interest.

1) If you look at a hand full of neons you will see the electrodes are not all aligned the same, some may be closer at the top or the bottom. While others appear to be proportionately spaced.

2) The extent of the ionization in the neon before the UV light is added. In other words very slight as in the video or at least 1/2 of an electrode illuminated.

Once a good ionization condition exists the small UV LEDS have little to offer in adding to the gas power levels. This does not say that a very strong UV source will not do something, but not the low level stuff as far as I have tested. I did a significant number of tests in this same area and determined that the UV does not add (in a measurable) way to the heat produced by the neon once it is full and heavily ionized.

It was an interesting video, but to my knowledge will not help in a SEC Exciter in any way.

@ALL

I knew it would happen, someone would make the parasitic mod on their board and then drive it with more than 20 volts. Well I have duplicated the problems this will create and it should be of great interest.

1) Even though the transistor does not overheat, something happens that reduces its hfe greatly. All the transistors in all the SEC Exciters leave our lab with a transistor with an hfe>200 and <300. I have seen hfe's drop to as low as 90. The circuit will work, but the neon is very dim and tuning becomes very sharp.

2) The neon changes dynamics. I have no idea what is happening, but it will only operate with a small portion of the electrodes glowing. Even increasing the voltage will not make either electrode fully illuminate.

What I have done at the lab is add transistor sockets to the lab boards, this makes easy testing of the transistor. I have not socketed the neon yet, but have that idea.

The condition happens starting at about 28V and up. I ran one at 32V for three hours and it was a flame thrower. Turned it off and let it all cool. Turned it back on at 20V and it did not work. The transistor started with an hfe of 245 and had dropped to 109.

SO CAUTION if you are going to crank then up, be prepared for a transistor or neon to fail.
All things are possible but some are impractical.

samedsoft

@Dr.Stiffler and All

  Dear Doctor,

    I am quite sure that there is a relation with Dr. Chukanov's ball lightning experiments. He is using  microwaves and additional electron bombing to pressurized air,Ne,He gases to achieve 50 times overunity and steam production.
 
   I guess you have discovered another triggering mechanism of ball lightning via RF waves.

   I will send your findings to Mr. Chukanov and ask him to comment about your discovery.He has already tested his 500 kW industiral level overunity steam generator. We are negotiating with him on possible scenarios of manufacturing his devices in Turkey.

   It is also appreciated to hear your comments too.

  Please check Dr. Chukanov's free Ball Lightning E-book at http://www.chukanovenergy.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=40&Itemid=54

   Best Regards,
   Nuri Temurlenk, Turkey

Loki67671

@All
PC is talking to the DAQs and the 4 channel analog DAQ is reading three temperature sensors, Ta, Tc, and Tw. Three additional DAQs are dedicated to measuring P-IN, Vin, and Iin+ / Iin- . The 5th in the stack is Digital I/O for houskeeping and handling over temp alarm outputs and auto power disconnect. All in all I'd say not much is being posted but it's going on!  :D Back to programming you DOG!  :-*

Loki
"When the water stinks, I break the dam, with Love I break it" .............Loki

"One must be completely immersed in the cold darkness to truly adore or loathe the light" .............Loki

Science, my lad, is made up of mistakes, but they are mistakes which it is useful to make, because they lead little by little to the truth." - Jules Verne

DrStiffler

Quote from: samedsoft on May 11, 2008, 01:38:53 AM
@Dr.Stiffler and All

  Dear Doctor,

    I am quite sure that there is a relation with Dr. Chukanov's ball lightning experiments. He is using  microwaves and additional electron bombing to pressurized air,Ne,He gases to achieve 50 times overunity and steam production.
 
   I guess you have discovered another triggering mechanism of ball lightning via RF waves.

   I will send your findings to Mr. Chukanov and ask him to comment about your discovery.He has already tested his 500 kW industiral level overunity steam generator. We are negotiating with him on possible scenarios of manufacturing his devices in Turkey.

   It is also appreciated to hear your comments too.

  Please check Dr. Chukanov's free Ball Lightning E-book at http://www.chukanovenergy.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=40&Itemid=54

   Best Regards,
   Nuri Temurlenk, Turkey
@samedsoft
A number of years ago I looked at what I could find on Dr. Chukanov's work and at that time detail were few so I have not paid further attention. The last I saw was that he was working in Canada?

I have received information (unconfirmed) that a researcher using a SEC Exciter built a five (5) terminal   
Ne bulb with (4) terminals at 90' locations and a terminal in the center of the circular arrangement.  He states he drive opposing electrodes from two AV Plugs off the exciter. The center electrode is at earth ground. It is stated that a very hot ionization forms around the centered grounded electrode.

Much to my dismay I do not have the capability or knowledge to build bulbs like this, but hoping to obtain one. If reports are correct, this would be a possible answer for a productive Exciter.

Has the good Doctor an underlying theory?
All things are possible but some are impractical.

DrStiffler

@All

"Having a bit of trouble posting again, so forgive duplicates, I will remove them."

Adding sockets to the SEC15-3 board for the serious experimenter. Allows interchange and replacement of transistors and neons. Also allows a nice connection to the outside world via the neon socket.



All things are possible but some are impractical.