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Omnibus · October 20, 2007, 01:59:11 AM

On another note. @xpenzif should also be pressed to come forth. We've seen enough fakers appearing to propose something viable only to disappear later without a trace. Recall what happened recently with that Mike claiming to have Bedini's device working. How many people fell in that trap. There should be some standards established on both sides of the issue. The claimant should be pressed to abide by some criteria of verification otherwise the most prudent thing is to ignore him. Same applies to the skeptic or the critic. These should also not be allowed to spew crap unattended.

In this case we don't even know who this guy is, where he is from. I'm repeating the concern of others here. Furthermore, he now got himself into a bigger quandary. He now claims he has already sold devices to people. Who are these people? Why wouldn't they come forth and testify, if there really are such people? This would almost amount to an independent verification. Well, the fake "inventors" and the fake "skeptics" are to be spotted sooner and be given what they deserve, I think.

Omnibus · October 20, 2007, 02:01:34 AM

Quote from: Pirate88179 on October 20, 2007, 01:47:23 AM
@ Omnibus:

Yes I can tell it's a real serious discussion since you are involved in it. Give me a break! I will go back to work and let your small mind wrap around this thought for a moment...or, take as much time as you require. Hans and the others were right about you. I thought I would give you the benefit of the doubt, but you have proved them all correct. Nice typing to you.

With absolutely no respect what so ever,

Bill

I've never said Hans is the only moron here. You prove there are others too. Stop discouraging people with your crap, you little nothing. Either post serious arguments or go away. As I said, no one needs your incoherent rantings here.

Pirate88179 · October 20, 2007, 02:02:35 AM

Zero:

I agree with your assessments. I too said it is not so simple to replicate and I did not attempt to do so. I am working on a parallel project and from what I have learned, and all of the evidence presented, I stated my opinion. So I, unlike some other dedicated forum members, did not take the plunge and therefore am not crying. I await further evidence to form any conclusions but, as I have said, I just don't think this is viable. I do think something is viable or I would not be working on it. I applaud any effort to do so. I ask you if you created something that appeared to work as this does, would you not make sure it was presented in a way that could not be challenged? I know I would. But, I don't expect everyone to be like me. I think I would hate the world if everyone were like me.

I can even see a situation where someone does something and even they can't replicate it. If it is real, we can all learn from that and maybe even help to find out what happened. This is a tough thing we are all trying to do. If it were easy, it would have been done 400 years ago.

Respectfully,

Bill

Omnibus · October 20, 2007, 02:06:28 AM

I should also add, arrogant politeness a la @hansvonlieven (I'm mentioning him in response to someone who just said his name) is also out of place in a serious discussion such as this.

Omnibus · October 20, 2007, 02:15:39 AM

Quote from: Pirate88179 on October 20, 2007, 02:02:35 AM
Zero:

I agree with your assessments. I too said it is not so simple to replicate and I did not attempt to do so. I am working on a parallel project and from what I have learned, and all of the evidence presented, I stated my opinion. So I, unlike some other dedicated forum members, did not take the plunge and therefore am not crying. I await further evidence to form any conclusions but, as I have said, I just don't think this is viable. I do think something is viable or I would not be working on it. I applaud any effort to do so. I ask you if you created something that appeared to work as this does, would you not make sure it was presented in a way that could not be challenged? I know I would. But, I don't expect everyone to be like me. I think I would hate the world if everyone were like me.

I can even see a situation where someone does something and even they can't replicate it. If it is real, we can all learn from that and maybe even help to find out what happened. This is a tough thing we are all trying to do. If it were easy, it would have been done 400 years ago.

Respectfully,

Bill

How do you know it hasn't been done 400 years ago? You don't know. Stop repeating that crap. This is no argument whatsoever.

Also, you have done nothig on that project as you yourself admit. Therefore, it is arrogant to express opinions one way or another and to discourage people based on your non-involvement. If you're interested and indeed want to see what the truth is watch quietly. Don't spew your completely unsubstantiated opinions no one needs.

As for @xpenzif, it is indeed strange that he won't come out more openly. That he's busy is no excuse at all. What more important should he be busy with, other than verifying the viability of his creation. Still the more he's offering it for sale already. Can you believe it? Why should anybody buy it, before it's clear it works? Take a chance? We've seen too many sellers of that kind. Wake up @xpenzif.