Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?

[Heynow]

Hi

I am new here and I joined up specifically because this thread.  I have a firm belief that a magnetic motor is possible, but I don't think it will be easy to make.  Imagine trying to make a lawnmower engine from scratch in your basement!

My observations about the motor are that this is closing the loop on a SMOT.  So if it needs a little kick-start, thats OK (?).  Also, isn't the idea that the machine needs to build a little momentum to get past the sticky point.  It seems that the mount for the magnets provides some shielding?  It looks like it is two pieces of material.

I know some of these points have been made already.

Peter

[Bruce_TPU]

I've posted another replication attempt on YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA3pGixr5rc

still no luck I'm affraid.

@ klicUK

A good attempt on the replication.    But, it still appears perfectly horizontal and is neither tilted nor off center on the base (this would act to increase the tilt.)  Please compare your picture again to that of the original.  Without gravity assist, this stands no chance of working.

It is the "unbalanced wheel" of the lead out theory that makes this possible.  Please reattempt, putting  the cylinder at a "slight" tilt, with the magnets at the "bottom" of that tilt. 

If you look at the photo of the original, you will also notice that it is "off set" from the center of the base.  This would add additional tilt to the unit.  A little geomotry off of the original photo, and you should get pretty close.

Until someone has replicated "exactly" they can not say that it does not work.  It simply does not work the way they have built it.

Keep pluggin' away, your doing a good job,   
Bruce 

[psychopath]

Hi

I am new here and I joined up specifically because this thread.  I have a firm belief that a magnetic motor is possible, but I don't think it will be easy to make.  Imagine trying to make a lawnmower engine from scratch in your basement!

My observations about the motor are that this is closing the loop on a SMOT.  So if it needs a little kick-start, thats OK (?).  Also, isn't the idea that the machine needs to build a little momentum to get past the sticky point.  It seems that the mount for the magnets provides some shielding?  It looks like it is two pieces of material.

I know some of these points have been made already.

Peter

Firstly, I still fail to see why people think this works like a smot. It doesn't. It doesn't drop out of a sticky point with the help of gravity.

Secondly, I believe overunity will come out of someone's garage. The first lawnmower engines were probably very simple. Also, since mainstream science acts a little like close minded religious fanatics, it is unlikely they will come up with anything.

Most importantly, the most universal, significant things in nature are usually very simple. Take Einstein for example, he came up with E=mc^2. Now how difficult is E=mc^2 to understand? It's simple! How hard is it to build a betatron? Not hard at all! You could use the parts from your television to make it. Did you know that MIchio Kaku made his betatron before he left high school?

So if overunity is possible, then an inventor could build one if it's an efficient design, with all the extras removed. Of course if overunity needs extreme amounts of power then it would be hard, but still, it would be SIMPLE.

PS By the way, the momentum gained from magnetic tracks such as v tracks, is not enough to get it past the sticky spot. If you have a steel ball which is attracted to a magnet, and rolls towards it on a track with the magnet beside the track, the ball doesn't come to a dead stop when it reaches the magnet. It keeps going, for a bit. I believe this is how the smot works, since the moment it goes past the magnet, it is in the air, and drops.

PPS Couldn't this have been very easily faked? Since he is using a hard disk, hard disks have motors! This reminds me of that video where the kid put his device on a computer fan, very oviously powered by the fan.

[HLEV]

PPS Couldn't this have been very easily faked? Since he is using a hard disk, hard disks have motors! This reminds me of that video where the kid put his device on a computer fan, very oviously powered by the fan.

After taking apart several hard drives myself, I have been thinking that this would have been easy to fake by running some hair thin magnet wire from the HD controller board, which you would hide out of sight, to a switch and then into the base of the motor.  Magnet wire would never show up in a grainy video.  Also you only really see one hand in the frame of the demo.  The other hand cold be pulsing the switch to simulate the movement. 

I want to be clear that this is just my theory of how it could be faked,  I am in no way saying that Xpenzif faked this in any way.  For now I am a believer and I am working hard on my own replication.

HL 

[Omnibus]

I've posted another replication attempt on YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA3pGixr5rc

still no luck I'm affraid.

@klicUK,

This is the direction to go when attempting to replicate the device. Good job and presentation. However, in addition to what @btentzer says I?d add that the screws you use do not seem to be of the same kind @xpenzif has used. Also, from @xpenzif?s video is seen that he doesn?t push the rotor to spin as you do but is slightly moving it to allow it to self-start. As seen from @zpenzif?s video the motor doesn?t work by just approaching the magnets to the rotor--motor spins properly only in one of the basically three attempts with some particular disposition of the magnets with respect to the drum. There?s more to it than just the physical appearance and shapes of the motor parts. Don?t forget that it?s the interaction with magnetic fields that is at play here, fields which are not seen with a naked eye. It?s this interaction of the fields that has to be reproduced, not just the shapes of the given parts of the machine.