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Overunity Machines Forum



Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?

Started by ken_nyus, October 15, 2007, 10:08:47 PM

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HLEV

Quote from: Craigy on October 22, 2007, 05:42:26 PM
I don't believe a word of it. That is probably the same chap using a second youtube id. He has been logging in to youtube , and probably viewing whats going on here , shame he can't come back to talk to you guys who have invested time in trying to replicate...Ok so you leave the stepper motor intact, is that with coils short circuit or not ..seems like he is just "screwing" the lot of us.

Remember this quote from Xpensif?

"As for the hard drive spindle, [it] was the most convenient thing I had back then, but now I have several bearings I can use. "

Either it was posted here, or was in the original text on Youtube, anyway it can be found on peswiki,com

HL

BEP

As a point of information only:

Hard drive spindle motors are usually 3 or more phase motors or polyphase. What this means is they usually have a 3 or 4 conductor ribbon connected to the motor. The rotor is a ring magnet with only one point polarized different from the rest of the ring. Short those leads out if you want the spindle to drag at the points of the multiple pole windings. The motor won't drag unless you put a load on it when it is acting like a generator.


klicUK

Quote from: tobasco on October 22, 2007, 02:59:18 PM
Sounds like a verification?

kossxf (5 days ago)
Can I buy this from you?
xpenzif  (5 days ago) 
Yes I have a smaller one I can sell you, pm me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA3pGixr5rc

kossxf (11 hours ago)
I have one of his devices. Its supposed to be mounted on a stepper motor in a way that lines up its push/pull with the screw alignment. It's like two systems balancing out each other. he doesnt mention it in his video.
klicUK
does it work?
kossxf (1 hour ago)
Yes it works fairly well.





No, no, no...

The full post is

kossxf (20 hours ago)

I have one of his devices. Its supposed to be mounted on a stepper motor in a way that lines up its push/pull with the screw alignment. It's like two systems balancing out each other. he doesnt mention it in his video.

klicUK (18 hours ago)
does it work?

kossxf (10 hours ago)

Yes it works fairly well.
klicUK (8 hours ago)
does it self start? I must say it contradicts all my findings, and the 2nd device I built is pretty faithfull to the original. You need to post a video - WITH SOUND

AutogenicMotor (5 hours ago)
SO the device you recieved is incomplete? You have to mount it yourself on a stepper motor?

klicUK

Quote from: HLEV on October 22, 2007, 05:58:43 PM
Quote from: Craigy on October 22, 2007, 05:42:26 PM
I don't believe a word of it. That is probably the same chap using a second youtube id. He has been logging in to youtube , and probably viewing whats going on here , shame he can't come back to talk to you guys who have invested time in trying to replicate...Ok so you leave the stepper motor intact, is that with coils short circuit or not ..seems like he is just "screwing" the lot of us.

Remember this quote from Xpensif?

"As for the hard drive spindle, [it] was the most convenient thing I had back then, but now I have several bearings I can use. "

Either it was posted here, or was in the original text on Youtube, anyway it can be found on peswiki,com

HL

thus all secondary assumptions about stepper motors and conjecture about how they would be used in conjunction can be discarded. CD spindles are as good a facsimile as any.

klicUK

Lots of claims on YouTube of working devices - no videos posted yet.

I'll be honest. I approached testing with an open mind, but since building I have tried god knows how many permutations with stators and rotor alignment (I even turned to a full 90 degrees). The result is always the same. It Breaks. I have posted the reasons why I believe xpenzifs explanation is wrong on PESWIKI.

Perhaps the most compelling evidence that this is fake is that xpenzif removed my video response of the replication (XPENZIF Replication part 2). Now why, when someone has gone to the trouble of virtually duplicating the device would he do that. He went public by showing it in the first place. If that were me I would be pointing out the mistakes, but then how do you explain the breaking effect, which is so apparent and obviously in direct contradiction to his claims. Surely the first time he tested his hypothesis he would have got the same result. Why then would he have continued if the result was so antagonistic to his vision. He also sells 'incomplete' units.

My position should now be clear...
Before I built it I had an open mind.
When I built the first rough protype I had my doubts.
Now I have built a faithful copy I believe it is fake.