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Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?

Started by ken_nyus, October 15, 2007, 10:08:47 PM

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Omnibus

Quote from: markdansie on October 23, 2007, 03:36:12 PM
Dear Omni,
May I take you back to an earlier quote of yours

" While there are many proposals, patents and claims for such devices, this one is the first practical one actually demonstrated (except for Finsrud's which I have seen personally but which is of a more or less theoretical importance)."

Nothing has been demonstrated until it can be replicated or independently validated. The onus is on the inventor now...not the replicaors. I think you insulted a lot of people when you said they should be ignored. In science nothing is ignored.

I am sure I could find someone here or in the NEC who lives nearby and could validate this. Even a longer video running would help.

Mark
Not so. In Science, errors are ignored, illogical conjectures are ignored, violation of truth is ignored etc. Science is about truth, not about arrogant politeness and foisting ideas that don't work. Someone wants his unsubstantiated ideas to be discussed instead of something which the inventor has taken care to shoot a video of and has offered an actual model for verification. That's arrogance and such arrogant people must be told off. Not a pleasant thing to do but that person is asking for it. 

NerzhDishual

Hi nice & courteous Builders and 'Fighters' (Belligerents)!

Sorry for disturbing.
Actually, the KlicUK's serious (IMHO) replications does not bode well.
Anyway I'm foolishly continuing my own reproduction.
Gluing all these bl' screws is boring and even tedious. Is it not?

BTW: I also, as Our-Gracious-Omnibus, do believe that the 'Theory' of Relativity is a bunch of whatever negative qualificative you could add.

Best
Nolite mittere margaritas ante porcos.

Localjoe

Ok id have to say that the left side of the axel base mount is at least 10 degrees higher on the left side .. hmmmm and the magnet thing on the right is tipped at a 25 degree angle or so when it runs if your looking top down on the device with the motor on top and the magnet gate on the bottom
GET THIS ONE - Bush wants to stop Iran from enriching uranium .. now as oberman said and others any drunk coke head can find out how to do this not just bush.

Also in reality Google has provided this info for some time.. so heres my point.

It's OK for GOOGLE TO PROVIDE INSTRUCTIONS FOR URANIUM ENRICHMENT but not OK FOR FOLKS TO SHARE TORRENTS OF MUSIC THEY POTENTIALLY OWN> AS WELL THEIR GOODS SHOULD BE SEIZED AND CHECKED AT AIRPORTS For copyright infringement.. ?????

This is the world we live in. More concerned if some exec doesn't get his buck than if some terrorist blows us to hell..

Pirate88179

@KlicUK:

I agree with your assesment and reports of your findings.  I think your replication was as "spot on" as required to prove/disprove this device. I personally thank you, and the other replicaters, for your efforts here.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

Omnibus

Of course, @klicUK has done a good job. His replication seems closest to the original compared to everyone else?s effort in this respect. Of course, there are still issues with his replication on the face of it, as I have already commented, as well as some possible additional factors such as the stepper motor mentioned by someone claiming to have one of @xpenzif?s devices. However, I think @xpenzif should come back here and give his comments on @klicUK?s experiment as well as describe better what he has done. Otherwise, it would be a rehash of something we?ve seen so many times before?the claimant splashes a sensational claim only to disappear later without a trace. Certainly, violation of CoE has already been proven beyond any doubt and self-sustaining devices are expected to be real. However, the engineering and especially the tune-up of such devices is a daunting task, indeed. No one so far has openly demonstrated such device despite the numerous claims. Until they are demonstrated and reproduced independently all the efforts of their creators is in vain. @xpenzif?s device is the closest so far but he should know that until he ensures that independent parties replicate what he has shown in the video no one would consider his construction as viable. As I said, @xpenzif has demonstrated some confusion regarding theoretical issues before. Nevertheless, he might have been able to stumble upon a working construction but this still remains an open question until it is independently confirmed.