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Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?

Started by ken_nyus, October 15, 2007, 10:08:47 PM

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Koen1

Guys, it's nice to see you've spun off into a discussion of magnetic shielding materials and so-called "new physics" (ahum), but the thread is about the magnet motor! Let's keep it on topic?

So, back on topic:

Has anyone actually made a working replication of this extremely simple magnet motor?
It seems a bit dodgy to me, as several much more intricate permanent magnet motors have been build in the past and they never really worked...
Also, the videos of replications of this specific motor all show that it does NOT work: all replicated versions slow to a complete halt. None of them actually rotate like the one in the original video.
I have built several permanent magnet motors that were very similar in design in the past, and NONE of them worked like I hoped. It would be quite odd if such a much simpler design would work. It would also be applaudable and a great breakthrough if it would actually work, but so far I have only seen the one prototype on the original video rotate, and no working replications at all yet.

If anyone as any videos of a working replication, please post them!
If not, then please do not let this thread turn into a general discussion on somewhat related topics, but let us then clearly state that there are no working replications and move on?


gaby de wilde

Quote from: karl on October 26, 2007, 04:36:21 AM
Hello Hans,

i like your opinions. As a farmous FE searcher I like to ask you a question.

Shielding is often a question when PMM motors are discussed.
Joules heating due to induced local circulating currents also.
The following observations are well known by nearly all PMM researchers:

# iron is attracted along the highest field gradient and is a good conductor for the magnetic field, therefore shielding by concentrating
# paramagnetic materials (e.g. pyro graphite, verry interesting: silver) is deflecting a part of the magnetic field, a big part is going through it; shielding by spreading (reflecting?) the fieldlines and superimposition of the resulting fields
# silver is also known to the involved to be a verry strong deflector for static and dynamic (E)M-fields, you know the patents. and see here:

http://www.science24.com/paper/899
New type of paramagnetic silver clusters in sodalite: Ag8n+.

So, we have a experimenting platform to combine different substances and to shape the inner structure by using a substrate to form the materials arround it.
Read the patent again; you know what patent I mean?

Now my question: could we produce a shielding material in powder form while combining the different effects by weight?

The following designrules are fixed:
#1 lowest attraction or repulsion between PMM and shielding material (balanced)
#2 lowest electric conductivity (sintered verry small particles, nanospheres)
#3 low weight to reduce work done to move the shield (when shield is planned to move)

The result will be: no pull in (slit in e-static) effect and no push out in a defined range of nearly static magnetic field strength, but a
strong shielding effect due to resembling the PMM's field.

A most interesting post. I think one should go for either reflection or absorption. Hilarious as it may sound to some of the more ignorant researchers. Steorn has a patent on a working shielding technology! haha! Their device moves the shield inside the magnetic field. The flux density remains constant. This allows the low energy magnetic actuator to open and close with very little friction/cost/drag/conservation.

I'm having my doubts about shielding in the long run but at least it can be used to create overunity between today and next week. :-)

Here is my effort towards documenting the tech.

http://magnetmotor.go-here.nl/magnetic-shielding
Magnetic shielding - MAGNETMOTOR.GO-HERE.NL

I will add the link to your posting some day I promise :) ....
blog  | papers | tech | inventors  | video

karl

Good morning Gaby de wilde,

nice place to live.
Only intuitive fusion of seen effects.
Maybe I'll show you pictures from magnets attracting Coal slag (or a part from it, depends on mesh size and origin).
Coal slag itself is attracted only to strong magnetic gradients (only gradients?).
At a granulation size of 60my to 300my there is only a slightly shielding effect.
Watch the ingredients fo BLACKBLAST(C) coal slag.
I think there is everthing in it to build the shield (maybe some slightly radioactive elements?).
Basicly Fe(x)O(y) is in it which combines two principles at all.
Whats about materials used to fabricate ceramic sintered magnets
Powders to sinter ceramic magnets without magnetize and sinter them have serveral electric advantages (LEVITRON).
Without magnetization by only sinter them they have a neutral (shielding) or programmed (magnetized with a stationary information) without loosing your electrons in photonic exchange (heat).
Best wises
kaRLfunkel

shruggedatlas

This thing looks so fake.  The way the cylinder stops when the magnets are pulled away is completely unnatural.  It does not begin to slow down immediately, as it should, but then at then end comes to an abrupt halt.  You would think it would spin for a while, given that it is on bearings.

Omnibus

Quote from: shruggedatlas on November 02, 2007, 04:38:00 AM
This thing looks so fake.  The way the cylinder stops when the magnets are pulled away is completely unnatural.  It does not begin to slow down immediately, as it should, but then at then end comes to an abrupt halt.  You would think it would spin for a while, given that it is on bearings.
Similar remark was made with respect to the Torbay motor. However, that motor was coupled with a generator (not immediately obvious in the pictures) which made it only natural to have it stop this way. Same here. It was mentioned that the hard drive motor the cylinder sits on has the coils shorted. No doubt, however, @xpenzif has to come forth and discuss this and other issues.