Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?

[Omnibus]

Speaking of magnet to magnet interactions, however, in opposition to my just expressed skepticism, I would mention again the well-known Lego perpetuum mobile: http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=wcy0tedYBMg. This seems like an interesting idea, seemingly not difficult to reproduce (if some additional details are known). It appears that the introduction of these rubber bands rotate the rotor magnets in just the right way to ensure the right timing of placing them into the field of the stators. Unfortunately, the author isn't forthcoming with more explanation (what else is new). I wrote him several pm's but never got a reply.

[Pirate88179]

@Omnibus:

I have seen this video before and...if you watch closley, there is NO correlation between the magnets moving due to the rubber bands and the rotation.  It appears random to me and I have serious doubts about this video.  Hit the pause button during the rotation and you will see what I mean...and once again, we have a "successful" video posted and then...poof, the creator disappears from sight.

I don't ever want to call anything posted here or elsewhere a "fraud" without real evidence but, when they are brought to our attention and questions are raised and then, they are gone from sight, this brings a serious question to my mind about the credibility of the device.

I have not seen anything, including Xpenzif's device, that I would say, as some do, is the real deal.  Still too early to state anything definitive especially when no one is here to answer any valid questions raised about the device and the video. I still have very, very serious doubts about this one.

Bill

[Omnibus]

I kind of agree with that.As I've said many times, so far the only device definitively proving CoE is SMOT. Nothing else has been verified properly yet (including the closest one, Finsrud's). As for the Lego device, I'm watching it frame by frame with VideoDub and, indeed, the disposition of the magnets during the first turn differs from what it is in the follow-up turns. This may be part of the solution to overcome the sticky spot. That's guesswork, though. I can't agree more that the constructors of these devices shouldn't disappear before the validity of their creations is verified. The rule, without an exception, however, is that they do disappear. I can think of at least ten such constructors some of which I've been even in personal contact with and who have even promised me that they will do anything possible for their devices to be verified, only to disappear later without a trace. What kind of a game that is beats me.

[shruggedatlas]

What kind of a game that is beats me.

You do not understand the game?  They are pranksters who enjoy watching gullible people fall for their pranks.

Also, I understand your opinion of the SMOT, but you do not speak honestly about it.  You claim that "it has been proven" that the SMOT violates CoE, as if there is a concensus about this.  You sort of leave out the bit that you are the only one who claims to have proven this, and no one else besides maybe Stefan agrees with you.  My feeling is that you do not account for the magnetic pull on the ball by the magnet as it begins to drop.

Anyway, how does the SMOT even apply here?  Gravity does not interrupt the magnetic force, so this is completely different from the SMOT.

[Low-Q]

I see your idea, and and it has already been built and displayed on youtube -

Vidar

Could you please post a link so I can check it out?  Thanks.

Peace,
Will

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kCr3lOhMJCg

it is a hand held magnet that power the wheel. However, if the stator was really static, the wheel would stop.
In your demonstration with the rail, I can see that the acceleratoion slows down half way. I look forward to see the test result from your rotating V-gate.

Vidar