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Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?

Started by ken_nyus, October 15, 2007, 10:08:47 PM

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shruggedatlas

Quote from: Omnibus on November 19, 2007, 02:50:51 PM
Sure, I won't but it isn't needed. Even the way it is now it still shows less lost energy from greater control energy imparted than from the energy imparted in the actual experiment. This is enough to prove violation of CoE.

Then I take back all the things I said.  We have reached an agreement.  All we have to do is rerun Naudin's test, but this time take away all the magnets during the drop from the input height, and then we will have definitive proof of whether or not the SMOT violates CoE.

Omnibus

Mind you this, when the magnets are moved apart the control is practically in the absence of magnetic field. However, even in the unlikely event that in complete absence of magnets the control will show greater loss than the loss when SMOT is present (the imparted energy in the control being greater than that in the actual one), it will in no way invalidate the demonstrated discrepancy which is clearly at odds with CoE. Therefore, we don't even care what the outcome would be in whatever other experiment. In the concrete experiment Naudin carries out violation of CoE is real.

Omnibus

Quote from: shruggedatlas on November 19, 2007, 02:55:06 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on November 19, 2007, 02:50:51 PM
Sure, I won't but it isn't needed. Even the way it is now it still shows less lost energy from greater control energy imparted than from the energy imparted in the actual experiment. This is enough to prove violation of CoE.

Then I take back all the things I said.  We have reached an agreement.  All we have to do is rerun Naudin's test, but this time take away all the magnets during the drop from the input height, and then we will have definitive proof of whether or not the SMOT violates CoE.
Not so. Read my last post.

hansvonlieven

G'day all,

It ts an old adage that a lie repeated often enough will turn into truth.

This works well in religion and politics, it does not do so well in science.

Parmenides said over 2000 years ago  "ex nihilo nihil fit" (translation: from nothing comes nothing)

I don't think Omnibus ever heard of it.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

Omnibus

Quote from: hansvonlieven on November 19, 2007, 03:04:46 PM
G'day all,

It ts an old adage that a lie repeated often enough will turn into truth.

This works well in religion and politics, it does not do so well in science.

Parmenides said over 2000 years ago  "ex nihilo nihil fit" (translation: from nothing comes nothing)

I don't think Omnibus ever heard of it.

Hans von Lieven
Go away with you silliness. It's getting to be ridiculous.