Working Attraction Magnet Motor on Youtube!?

[Omnibus]

Well Omnibus,

We are here assuming that the seller and xpensif are different people. Since both are anonymous and hide behind handles it's really difficult to tell.

Hans von Lieven

Correct. Also, that @kossxf is not the same as the seller.

[Omnibus]

This is the correct type of stepper per xpenzif's patent[/quote]



The above quote is from Hans's quote from the ebay ad. (underline added by me)  I just realized that he mentions expenzif's "Patent".  What patent?  Has he attempted to patent this?  He has already put the design in the public domain on here, and youtube so, that should not be possible.  Knowing the USPO they will probably issue a patent to him anyway, even if a non-working device, as Omnibus has been saying about similar granted patents. This is a sad state of affairs if true.

Bill

Well, we here in the US work under the presumption "first to invent" while in Europe the principle is "first to publish" if I remember correctly. We should ask @shruggedatlas, however, for clarification on these matters because she seems to be a real expert in this.

[hansvonlieven]

Correct Bill,

Which begs the question what is really going on here. Could it be that this is some pilot programme for a massive scam? Could someone just use this whole thing to test the waters as it were?

It is not that it hasn't been done before.

Only time will tell, we shall have to see what emerges.

Hans von Lieven

[Omnibus]

This seller guy probably thinks he has already something better (and, who know, maybe not only thinks but he really has it) which he can get a patent for and he's now trying to recover the money he paid @xpenzif for it by selling on ebay the already unnecessary old model. Same old, same old ... patents shmatents, useless but standing in the way of true research.

[Pirate88179]

@ Omnibus:

I agree.  I have very little faith now in the patent office.  Best to invent something, produce it, and sell it.  If it is an OU device, then share it with the world. I can't think of a better calling than that.

Bill