A working ball wheel

[AB Hammer]

mramos

I have to laugh a little for I don't think you are a Red Dwarf fan. Smeg is a substitution for a smelly word.

The third wheel is the one I want to build, it will be a 4 ft. version, that way I can carry it in my car. I am showing what has come before it due to the video won't show the action. even thow those actions fall short of the third. I also have my other wheels to finish for patent to go along with my flywheel designs. Yes the third is meant for open source due to I truly feel that it is bessler's wheel design and how it worked. At least the 12 foot one. I have other ideas for the others for I have strong beliefs that they all where different.

[hartiberlin]

Smeg! since I showed the patterns I will show you the second version. But not the 3rd version for it has something extra, and it will work just the same according to the math, as Besslers 12 ft wheel.

Hmm, I wonder,
how this could be simulated in WorkingModel 2D.

Can I use 3 layer behind each other ?
I have to try this..

@Hammer,
maybe you can still rebuild it and show a video of it running ?
Many thanks in advance.

[wattsup]

Interesting but as soon as the bottom ball passes to the left, you're cooked. There will be more weight on the left than on the right and stop.

Also, don't waste time with a cardboard cause this will only falsify your results.
First rule. The wheel has to be perfectly balanced first without the balls.
Then add the balls.

But even then, the fact that the right ends curve downwards, it will pass the center line sooner and become a counter weight faster.

The solution to these wheels is alot more complex then we may think. What you do on the left, happens faster or slower on the right. What you do on the right happens faster or slower on the left.

Even if you keep a percentage of the balls in a neutral zone, those active will always be more on the left, less on the right.

If you do your drawings, do it with the bottom ball on center and see if the wheel will pass this point. If it does not, then you know there's a problem.

[FreeEnergy]

this idea looks like it will work, at least from my point of view! i can be wrong though.

Stefan any luck with working model 2d in replicating this design?






peace

[AB Hammer]

Greetings all

This is to help you understand my approach to the gravity/Bessler wheel problem. The patterns I am making go into 4 categories.
1. Is toy a wheel that moves but has little to no modern value.
2. Is a wheel that has value but might have to be to big for home use.
3. Is a wheel that has value to home or industry.
4. Is a totaly new concept that may exceed the imagination.

With armour I have dealt with many moving problems to duplicate the bodies movement comfortably. I have also show mechanical abilities since I was young. At 8 I could repair any fishing real that was brought to me. And as far as I can remember I have never failed in figuring out any mechanical problem. Categories 3 and 4 are the only ones that will have any value today, so that is my real target goal. I have been seeing people keep on a narrow path and loosing hope all to often, including my nabber that got me into this hobby. The cardboard wheel was just a test. I was using 3/4 inch ball bearings. It got Buddy my nabber and I very excited but not going very fast either like 1, 2, 3, only making 1/4 turn, and then it started to deform and a ball fell out. Thus started even more and more patterning. The first one that I have been working on (on its 4 alteration) is only a 18 inch wheel and should be able to run a small generator. When it works, this one will make a difference.

The ball wheel that I have posted, is to give people more hope with something that at least runs some. I can't say if it runs forever either but is promising as a toy #1 category. From what I have read of Bessler the 12 foot wheel would only fit into the #2 category but like the 6.5 foot and the 9.3 would have fit into the #3 category.

I at least hope this help you understand my approach.

And  wattsup  use 6

Alan