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Overunity Machines Forum



New magnet motor approach

Started by skycaptain, October 17, 2007, 06:03:33 PM

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skycaptain

I've been experimenting with the effects iron on magnets.
People say its not a shield, and i agree...its more like a rerouting conductor for magnetic flux.
Shield or not you can still achieve the desired affect of any so called shield.
I take apart different size transformers and electric motors and disassemble the laminations into individual slices that they were originally made.....Using various size neo mags i jus mess around and really see the actual physical reactions of the laminations and magnets, without any software predictions or anything.
...Since each lamination is very thin i can fine tune the thickness of the shield to achieve the desired affect.
Too thin and theres barely a difference if the shield was there or not...Too thick and the magents with have a strong attracting force to the laminations. Just right makes it so that the magnets dont interfere with each other making it so theres no pull towards the laminations or repulsion from each other...The desired affect is achieved when you can move like poles in close proximity of each other with much less energy than without the shield or no energy. I can change the thickness of the shield and make two like poles barely repel or barely attract to the shield wich ever effect is desireable or have it at the neutral point. Different magnets, shield thickness, and proximity are what changes this effect.
Without all the software i think this is key concept that needs to be taken advantage of. Bringing like poles together with little or no energy is like bringing a ball to the top of the hill. plenty of potential.

1st picture just shows to mags opposing with  A LOT of force in opposite directions.
2nd just shows the magnets in close proximity with no repulsion.

I just used them to help illustrate what i mean.

I've seen a desin that takes advantage of this effect but is not too efficient. I think it was russian but he had a piston much like a car piston with a crank but the piston is magnet and uses a like pole and TDC to repel it back down, but uses a cam timed shield to bring the two mags in close proximity. It was a very crude design but mine is much more effecient and a takes a totally different approach to using this characteristic...Hopefully i will have it done soon, once my brother freaking goes to his storage and get his dang router(wood router.)

hansvonlieven

G'day Skycaptain,

Not a bad approach. Keep working at this one, there are applications here.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

skycaptain

im goin to the gym but i'll post pictures of my work in progress later...sorry

ken_nyus

See this thread: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2019.0.html

and this one: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3039.0.html

Also this patent is interesting, when it talks about a multi-layer shield used between two magnets in repulsion:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=mEg2AAAAEBAJ&dq=3,967,146

skycaptain

My design is much more tunable and takes advantage of 180 degrees or more of repelling or attracting force im sure it would work both ways, attracting would prolly be better, since attracting force is roughly 2x stronger than repelling, also the magnets would be happy and last much longer.