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Overunity Machines Forum



New magnet motor approach

Started by skycaptain, October 17, 2007, 06:03:33 PM

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gyulasun

Hi,

I wonder  why there is a certain angle between the planes of the top and bottom rotors?  Why are they not parallel?

Also, I can see the photos dated for  the year 2005.  Haven't you tinkered with these rotors since then?

I fully agree with your thoughts in your first post:
...Since each lamination is very thin i can fine tune the thickness of the shield to achieve the desired affect. Too thin and theres barely a difference if the shield was there or not...Too thick and the magents with have a strong attracting force to the laminations. Just right makes it so that the magnets dont interfere with each other making it so theres no pull towards the laminations or repulsion from each other...The desired affect is achieved when you can move like poles in close proximity of each other with much less energy than without the shield or no energy. I can change the thickness of the shield and make two like poles barely repel or barely attract to the shield wich ever effect is desireable or have it at the neutral point. Different magnets, shield thickness, and proximity are what changes this effect.

But to achieve this effect for two rotors that are not parallel with each other is more difficult than for two parallel ones, nevertheless it can be surely done.

Probably you are aware of the Ecklin patent where he used the same principle of putting shield between two (repel) magnet poles but he made both the magnets and the shield moveable.  (Fig. 3 and 4 in his patent # 3,879,622, see here:  http://www.rexresearch.com/ecklin/ecklin.htm ).

Thanks,
Gyula

skycaptain

Well if they were parralell then where would any inbalance in force come from?
but the only fine tuned part of the shield i need is near closest dead center. lemme try to explain it more....

skycaptain

From my head through my fingers and over tha net, it may get twisted but i'll try my best....

The two rotors will be geared together so that at closest dead center two magnets are aligned and all magnets are aligned at any given moment.

So let me try to explain in repel because that may be the easiest.
A pair of magnets comes out of shield then they see each other and want to get as far away from each other as possible.
The only way they can increase distance from each other is to rotate and since the two rotors are angled, different angles make different torque. Low angles would be less torque since the distance between each magnet doesnt change as fast as a higher angle.

Then once the pair reach i guess u could say "TDC" or the 180 degree mark where the magnets will be as far away from each as they can be, they enter the shield. I can make the shield so that they even attract strong into the shield until they get closer and i can make the shield so that its neutral when the magnets come into closer proximity. Then the cycle is repeated.

Now ponder...even if a pair of magnets have a slight sticky spot coming out of the shield, imagine the magnets before it already out of the shield with strong repulsion converting into strong torque pullling it through any sticky spot if there is any, and the magnets attracting strong to shield maybe. Main point being if there is any sticky spot, theres the rest 340 degrees of positive torque from all the other magnets. But most likely any sticky spot can be tuned out.

thats as far as i can do now but i'll try again when i get more time...


skycaptain

Oh and i took those pictures yesterday i guess my camera has the wrong date...

skycaptain

The shield would be different and lot more difficult to fine tune when its in attractive configuration.