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Overunity Machines Forum



New magnet motor approach

Started by skycaptain, October 17, 2007, 06:03:33 PM

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gyulasun

Quote from: NobleWolf on October 18, 2007, 05:21:58 PM
Hi all:

Has anybody tried this magnetic shield? Is it real or what? It seems TGTBT for me but who knows.
http://www.rexresearch.com/wardle/wardle.htm


Hi,

Yes I am aware of that patent and it seems very interesting because the shield when ready has no any ferromagnetic property and still is supposed to block magnetic flux...
It was mentioned first here: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1771.msg20092.html#msg20092
and then here: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2217.msg29095.html#msg29095
I have not tried it yet.
rgds, gyula

skycaptain

Quote from: gyulasun on October 19, 2007, 09:37:11 AM
Quote from: skycaptain on October 18, 2007, 12:55:19 PM
So my first attempt will be in repelling mode....i dont know if i explained it good enough

Hi,

Thank you for the explanations and the drawings.  Now I understand how you mean the setup is supposed to work. Well, I hope you are right and the good thing is you are building it and soon will be in a position to test it.

I think the most critical  point is when a  rotor magnet just comes out from the cover of the shield, just receives the needed repel kick and encounters a repel force from the second (almost but not yet facing) magnet on the other rotor. Then this repel force continues to appear in a gradually reducing  intensity as the rotor proceeds further on, depending on the angle between the two rotors. If there is enough reserve/margin to compensate these repel forces with attraction forces elsewhere, then you have a working motor!

For the time being I cannot see any negative thing in your setup that may hamper the operation of your setup. Of course you have to consider the friction the gear will introduce too but it should be a question of the strength of the magnets used.

Rgds, Gyula


Yeah thats an an important part but once its done i can change the angle  and what not or even make the shield go slightly past closest dead center so when the magnete come out its all downhill for them, but who know....

Main problem is i leave for bootcamp next sunday...Oct 28th

thats why im open sourcing it now, i didnt have to time finish it but we'll see.. this is my last week here so im just letting others knnow about my design.

Yeah well we'll see if i cna finish it before i leave, im busy tieing up all the loose knots before i leave though, thats the onlny problem....

gyulasun

Hey Captain from Sky...

Do not get discouraged by a possible lack of time after next week. It is you who got this setup idea and it is you who is expected to make a test on it in practice, right?
I am sure if most of the active builders at this forum were not busy with the Attraction magnet motor made of screws fixed on a cylinder, then your idea surely would get more attention!  So this is why I say it is you at the time being the most appropiate person to make a prototype.

Thank you again for sharing your efforts here.

rgds, Gyula

skycaptain

Well I think its because the screw toy thing looks easy and simple...

And in the field where frustration usually is the result of most projects, would you rather ponder an easy failure or a difficult one?

But dont get me wrong the screw motor isnt a complete failure, if you simplify the core design your taking a torque inclination on a linear scale and isolating it and timing it with other copies of the same system to pull its way through, wich is a good concept. Quite like the core design of perendev but perendev uses iron on half of the magnets to take advantage of the shield like qualities of it. Wich im trying to do also, its a quality thats very helpfull and hasnt been fully harnessed.

skycaptain

I doubt im going to finish....i leave this sunday